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Federal Ct Takes CSIS To Task In Case Involving CSEC Requests for Foreign Agency Spying on Canadians

Since the first Snowden revelations earlier this year, there has been much speculation about the use foreign intelligence agencies (such as the NSA) to conduct surveillance on Canadians. While the government is always careful to say that CSEC does not spy on Canadians, many suspect that each of the “five eyes” agencies (the US, UK, Canada, Australia, and New Zealand)  do it on their behalf. Yesterday, a federal court judge confirmed the practice as part of a decision that found CSIS “breached its duty of candour to the Court by not disclosing information that was relevant to the exercise of jurisdiction by the Court and to the determination by the Court that the criteria of investigative necessity and the impracticality of other procedures set out in subsection 21 (2) of the CSIS Act had been satisfied.”

The lack of candour appears to arise from the failure to disclose that the CSIS warrants would involve seeking CSEC assistance in requesting foreign interception of Canadian communications:

the Court has determined that the execution of the type of warrants at issue in Canada has been  accompanied by requests made by CSEC, on behalf of CSIS, to foreign agencies (members of the “Five Eyes” alliance), for the interception of the telecommunications of Canadian persons abroad.

The release from the court leaves little doubt about its view of the practice:

the Court considers it necessary to state that the use of “the assets of the Five Eyes community” is not authorized under any warrant issued to CSIS pursuant to the CSIS Act. The question of whether CSIS may, with the assistance of CSEC, engage the surveillance capabilities of foreign agencies was not raised in the application that resulted in the issuance of the first such warrant or in any subsequent warrants of this type.

The Globe reports it has received records indicating that CSEC receives dozens of these kinds of requests each year from CSIS, the RCMP, CBSA, and National Defence.

16 Comments

  1. It’s just one thing after another.
    I’m truly thankful that the court took this opportunity to underscore what is merely one tip on an iceberg of dishonesty that has been operating against our privacy and very human dignities over the past many years.

    Unfortunately, the bottom is nowhere near in view:

    http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/canadian-banks-to-be-compelled-to-share-clients-info-with-u-s-1.2437975

    In short: if you hold more than fifty thousand in a Canadian bank, your information will be crossing the border next year when a US law comes into effect. You heard that right: a US law. Canadian banks will be asking you if you are a “U.S. person” as defined by the IRS – the IRS of *not this country.* Our government is complicit and Canadian banks will comply because not doing so will mean a 30% transaction penalty on everything you do through them that transits the US financial system – from online purchases to wire transfers. That’s right: the US is bullying Canada. It would only be fair to charge them the same.

    And don’t forget last week’s attack on privacy under the guise of “cyberbullying”.

    And then there’s the constant screams from no one but the US government and corporate monopoly lobby groups for copyright reform which you have also written about. For your readers, here’s more from Howard Knopf’s blog:

    http://excesscopyright.blogspot.ca/2013/11/bill-c-8-re-anti-counterfeiting-is_26.html

    In short: remember ACTA that no one wanted, and that the EU didn’t sign due to massive protests? C-8 brings it to Canada.

    Something needs to change.

    I would honestly rather close Parliament than keep seeing these laws after counter-productive laws which keep belching out of that corrupt factory in Ottawa.

  2. hate to tell ya this.
    hate to tell you this, but EVERYTHING outside the home is public property in canada.

    privacy was never rec’d as a property right in the constitution. bill of rights.

    the conservative version of that holds the family as a basic unit of society, by the way.

    .
    (nb: from Indian lands to ‘lands held for natives to crown property. The same deal goes for info in canada, except corps will own it, not gov’ts.)

    any three biz’men make a conspiracy to fix prices. Any three politicians make blacklisting, extortion and coverups the norm.

    the future? schooling will not be mandatory; buying from the corps will. medical treatment already is.

    now for the ministry of circuses… (religion)

    till the system no longer functions. (I use the bio-metric id farce. invented here (ottawa), bought and moved to que, a life-long sinecure or feudal fiefdom that never got released.)

    c-6 made putting danadylions in a labeled bottle something your whole house could get seized for.

    admin law, too. No rules of evidence, secret courts, no appeals.

    it was passed by all three major parties.

    NOW go vote.

    pat

  3. Michael Heroux says:

    Intelligence Harrassment
    We are contacting you about a story in The Globe and Mail about CSEC.
    We are the TANDEM they wrote about.
    My wife and I and our 3 children have been abused by the RCMP CSIS CSEC
    and other police forces in Ontario and British Columbia for over 5 years now.
    I have a mental disability and the police started
    harrassing my family and I when I started using Craigslist 5 years
    ago. It sounds strange but I have been poisoned and my wife has been
    poisoned for speaking out publicly about the abuse. We have also been
    assulted numerous times in the last 5 years. They are listening to us
    in our bedroom and living room because they let us know by telling us
    what we are talking about in the privacy of our home. We contacted the
    BC Human Rights and Civil Rights office last year because the police
    were trying to run me and my family over on the streets, but they never got back to
    us. We got a lawyer a couple years ago and the lawyer was able to get
    them to lay off for a bit. Can you let us know what we can do about
    the harrassment. They tried to murder us this year. Thankyou

  4. Michael Heroux says:

    Intelligence Harrassment
    Sorry, I forgot to leave my email address.

    davechappel54321@gmail.com

  5. Michael Heroux says:

    UPDATED Intelligence Harassment – God Bless Judge Mosley
    My wife and I are the two people Justice Mosley was refering to when he ruled CSIS was end running the law. We have been following this decision very closely, we are being spied on right here in Canada. My wife and I and our 3 children have been abused by the RCMP CSIS CSEC and other police forces in Ontario and British Columbia for over 5 years now. I have a mental disability and the police started harassing my family and I when I started using Craigslist 5 years ago, what can I say, we’re swingers. My wife slept with a few of them while I watched. We are not terrorist. It sounds strange but I have been poisoned and my wife has been poisoned for speaking out publicly about the abuse. We have also been assulted numerous times in the last 5 years. They are listening to us in our bedroom and living room because they let us know by telling us what we are talking about in the privacy of our home. We contacted the BC Human Rights and Civil Rights office last year because the police were trying to run me and my family over on the streets, but they never got back to us. We got a lawyer a couple years ago and the lawyer was able to get them to lay off for a bit. They sent a gunman to murder us last year, we managed to evade him. It also sounds strange but we have a spy monitoring us right now in the adjacent suite to us and they have been there for 10 months now. Since Judge Mosleys decision they quit harassing us but they are still messing around with our internet and phone communications. Thank God for Judge Mosley, I think he saved our lives. We think the reason they are still watching over us is because of what Judge Mosley refered to as “invasive survailence techniques” used against the people who had those warrents issued on them. They don’t want us to tell anyone about the techniques used against us for the last 5 years. Pretty sophisticated alien technology if I do say so myself. Pretty cool actually but we don’t plan on telling anyone. We are patriotic Canadians and we hate terrorist like everyone else but we don’t want to see people abused. Caught up in the fish net so to speak. They have tried to set us up numerous times for arrest over the last 5 years to get their hands on us and make us look like the bad guy’s but we have managed to evade those atemps also.

  6. Michael Heroux says:

    CONTINUED Intelligence Harassment – God Bless Judge Mosley
    My wife and I are concerned because Canada Post is being scaled back and it has got us worried. We use open source software for our operating system. In the last 5 years our privacy has been majorly violated. We are most concerned about our communications being sanitized. We no longer have control over who we can make contact with through electronic means. We can only contact people in person for representation so most people not within our city are off limits to us. We realize we are being followed and are being listened to in the privacy of our own home and our home has been entered numerous times when we are not home by intelligence but our means of communications are being sanitized. 5 years ago we noticed rootkits being installed on our operating systems and I was able to set up honey pots and found they were being installed by the military. Since, we switched to virtual machines from static medium verified with sha512sums (DEBIAN KNOPPIX) to get a malware free system each boot. The only website we use is Craigslist and we have met RCMP agents through Craigslist who wanted us to work for them to help them entrap people from terrorist to gangsters. We believe they were just looking for patsies though. I used to work for the RCMP over 20 years ago to infiltrate criminals and make arrests but I quit working for them because they wanted me to set people up that weren’t even breaking the law. For the last 5 years we have used Gmail and we have had numerous internet suppliers and numerous Gmail accounts and we have noticed people we have been emailing and people emailing us have not been getting the emails even though Gmail says they have been sent. We use an SSL connection so our communications are encrypted. The same thing applies to our text messages, we have used Rogers for internet, text and phone for the last 5 years. We have noticed our posting on certains forums are not showing up or they are being deleted as we are writing them right before our eyes or our browsers are being closed as we are writing stuff. Our computers are being shut down and our cell phones are being shut down as we are trying to correspond with people. We have realized that people have been contacting us through our email and our cell phones claiming to be people we know like family members for instance but we know they are imposters. We have tried contacting Human and Civil Rights advocates through electronic means but have had no replies. We have even tried to contact legal representation through electronic means but have never heard anything back over the years. It sounds strange but a gunman was sent to kill us early last year but we managed to evade him. Shortly after that someone tried hiring a hitman through the SILK ROAD website to kill us. At first when the website was taken down by the FBI the owner said the hit was for a father of 3 from Vancouver but later he admitted it was for the whole family of 5, a husband, wife and 3 children. We have been poisoned numerous times in the last 5 years and I have numerous painful swollen lumps throughout my body. Strangers have come up to us on the streets and have told us I have cancer. I went to the emergency room last year because my brain was swelling in my head and my eyes were bulging and I was having severe headaches and the doctor didn’t want to treat me and sent me home. Thanks for reading.

    davechappel54321@gmail.com

  7. Michael Heroux says:

    Intelligence Harassment
    My wife and I are trying to deal with The Department Of Justice Canada and The Privacy Commissioner Of Canada to get information on the abuse of us and our children by CSIS CSEC and the RCMP for over 5 years now. Both The Department Of Justice Canada and The Privacy Commissioner Of Canada said they can help us with our case until they realized who we were and now they are both ignoring us after multiple attempts in the last 4 months for us to follow up with them. They both asked us for specific information about our case and since we sent them the information that they needed they are ignoring us now. I guess our next step will be to get a Charter Of Rights And Freedoms lawyer and see if they can help us out. We contacted the BC Civil Liberties Office and as soon as they realized who we were they said they couldn’t help us because their organization was not large enough and they didn’t have the resources to handle a case as large as ours. We also contacted our Member Of Parliament and Thomas Mulcair about our family being abused by CSIS CSEC and the RCMP but no one has gotten back to us ever.

  8. Michael Heroux says:

    Intelligence Harassment
    Michael Heroux said

    My wife and kids and I finally got a reply back from The Justice Department Of Canada. They were ignoring us just like the Privacy Commisioner Of Canada is now. They finally acknowledged our statements to them about us being poisoned and assaulted numerous times and the assasination attempts on our lives, and the fact that I have cancer because of the poisonings that they did against us. I think my cancer is getting worse, it is really painful now and the lumps are spredding throughout my abdomin. They sent us a letter the other day and said the information we are looking for on the 30-08 warrants against us are not under their control and told us to contact CSIS. I hope I live long enough to see those bastards pay.

  9. Theresa Kuhn ~ Nova Scotia says:

    Illegal actions of RCMP and CSIS involving psychiatrists and protection services (children Services)
    I encourage every Canadian to read Gareth Llewellyn,Roderick Russell and David Morrison’s stories online. ***PLEASE SUPPORT US*** while we strive to make CSIS accountable for their illegal actions against us.
    An honest spy service is about intelligence and information gathering; not torturing, intimidating, harassing, threatening – this is the role of a secret police. Apparently,the CSIS Director does not understand that in Canada one is supposed to charge those whom the authorities believe are law breakers; not arbitrarily torture them instead.
    I was a witness to a criminal matter, I witnessed RCMP,CSIS illegal acts and was taken to a psych hospital for 29 days. More than three psychiatrists were involved in rending a fraudulent mental illness, blackmailing me to take meds. The RCMP placed a fraudulent crack cocaine allegation on my Children services report. My 2y/o daughter was taken from me for 104 days. DOJ processed the accused and kept me silenced in Family court fighting to get my daughter back.
    Judge Douglas Campbell in Supreme Family Court has my complaint letter to SIRC and the College of Physicians and Surgeons. I exposed many of the CSIS agents including the one that lived in my house (Sydney “Charlie” Hubley). THIS SITUATION IS A SYSTEMATIC COVER-UP ACROSS THE JUSTICE SYSTEM INVOLVING CABINET MINISTERS, RCMP, CSIS AND PSYCHIATRISTS.

  10. Michael Heroux says:

    Intelligence Harassment
    Michael Heroux said michaelheroux1967@gmail.com

    The Privacy Commissioner Of Canada finally got back to us after ignoring us for quite some time now. When we first contacted her office they wanted more specific information from us to prove to them that the 30-08 warrants Judge Richard Mosley issued were actually for us. We know they have the security clearance to find out and we know they know the warrants were for us but they keep saying prove it. We sent them the names of the first 2 agents they sent to investigate us in 2008 and they didn’t even acknowledge the agents in any way. They didn’t comment on the agents, they didn’t ask questions about the agents or nothing. They are just ignoring anything we tell them even though they keep asking for more information. The first 2 agents they sent to investigate us in 2008 were our daughters. Our 2 daughters came back home to live with us in 2008 and told us they were working for Canadian Intelligence. They told us the agent that they were working for wanted them to set us up. It has got us worried. We don’t know whether Canadian Intelligence are play some sort of sick game with us but a stranger approached us out of the blue last year and told us our daughters have been murdered. We have not heard from our 2 daughters since they were sent back home to investigate us for Canadian Intelligence. All The Privacy Commissioner Of Canada is saying to us is prove it. They want us to name names of the Intelligence agents we met in 2008-2009 but they won’t offer us any protection against further assasination attempts against my wife and kids and I even though they know about the previous attempts. We are still being monitored as I write this and we have reason to believe they are using foreign spies from their international coalition. The last thing The Privacy Commissioner Of Canada did was refer us to the recommendations that she made to Parliament on our behalf. The same thing is going on with The Justice Department Of Canada, all they want from us is more information from us to prove the 30-08 warrants were for us but even though they know about our daughters working as agents for Canadian Intelligence and they know about the poisonings and assasination attempts against us and they know the 30-08 warrants were for us all they are saying now is they don’t have control over the 30-08 warrant information we are looking for against us and they are saying Canadian Intelligence have the information we are looking for. Both agencies have security clearance and they know everything but they are playing dumb but they still want us to name names about the agents we met between 2008-2009 and neither of them are willing to offer us protection against further assasination attemtps against us.
    After our daughters left our home when they were done investigating us in 2008 many agents were contacting us in the beginning of 2009 offering us large sums of money if we leave Canada for a while. We knew they were trying to get us to leave Canada but not until Judge Richard Mosley decision did we realize why. They were offering us luxury vacations in the sun and basically anything we wanted just to leave Canda for a while. Now we realize it was just a ploy to get their International Coalition involved, we probably would never have been heard from again. They also wanted us to bring our kids along. The good agents were warning us that our life was in danger and they were telling us to move back to British Columbia for our own safety. The local police force would escort us home late at night when we left the downtown area and we always wondered why we were so special. We decided to listen to the good agents and move back to British Columbia for our safety. Just as we were getting ready to moved a few agents approached us and offered us $250,000 dollars if we stay in Ontario. We couldn’t believe it. But we left anyways. Thanks for reading.

  11. Theresa Kuhn ~ Nova Scotia says:

    Hi Michael Heroux, I sent you a private email. I was wondering if you and your wife have filed a formal complaint against Canadian Security Intelligence Service with SIRC? If your daughters were directed by CSIS then they would be silenced under the CSIS Act. Could you not use their testimonies to sign an affidavit with an attorney assistance? You may want to speak to David Morrison. https://www.facebook.com/david.morrison.395454

  12. Michael Heroux says:

    INTELLIGENCE HARASSMENT
    Michael Heroux said michaelheroux1967@gmail.com

    Hello, I am not sure who you are but we are trying to deal with the Canadian Government. The only agencies we have been able to get through to are the Justice Department Of Canada and The Privacy Commissioner Of Canada. Our internet is being sanitized by Canadian Intelligence. We don’t have control over who we can contact or who can contact us online or by phone. We have been dealing with the Harper Government since the end of Novermber 2013 but they are trying to give us the run around. They are letting us post on some blogs but they are blocking us from posting on other blogs. They were blocking us from posting on THE GLOBE AND MAIL but they finally let some posts go through but now they are blocking us again from posting there. We have tried contacting numerous government agencies and news agencies over the years but they are not letting our communications go through. If anyone can please contact THE GUARDIAN or THE WASHINGTON POST on our behalf we would be greatful. We were thinking of trying to send a letter to JIMMY CARTER because we know he is doing great things for human rights. We were able to make a call to the NATIONAL POST and spoke to an investigative reporter but he tried to set us up here in Vancouver with and INTELLIGENCE AGENT. The agent was trying to set us up for arrest.

  13. csis and csec
    Hi my name is ken boit csis has and still are watching myself by military spy sattelite. csis had first set me up in 1983. csec had beem monotoring my phone calls and had my half brother mike meet me in high school in calgary in 1983. mike is from winnipeg we share the same father.In 1990 in june csis and the dnd had used a technology called infrasound or infrasonic to drive me crazy and totally disable me I am now a paranoid schizoprenic.

  14. csec and csis
    Hi ken again csis is monitoring me by military dnd spy satellite . The dnd is acontractor for csis and are using a tecnologies call infrasound or infrasonics to drive me insane all the technolgies menstioned are deployed by military dnd satelites.I have tried to find out why they are doing this to me a phychologist friend thought it was because I am considered a un desiriable by society and the conservative government.In 1990 they used this technolgy to cause me to be in a car crash, destrying the vechicle.One way to tell if they are deploying the infrasound in your property or office or anywhere that has apower connection your home oranywhere there is live power. I have found a way to partialy criple it is to gobto the main power panel in your home and switch the power compleatly off and obtain a flashlight at night.All the power will be off and of course no appliances will function. This will work in a house only or certain apparments divided. If you you have wet snow or severe weather and power in your neighborhood is switched off the ifrasound or infrasonic or both will 100% not work in your house.I beleive in that in that circumstance you would be safe.This my sound totally bizar if the dnd is listening inside your house you should talk with them.You my say things that what you beleved has caused them to deploy such a horrible technology on you. I would think everbody thinks this totaly false and misleading but it is the truth.Something I frogot to mention that inherent to these technolgies I have mentioned infrasonic and infrasound you will hear a buzzing or ringing in your ears.these technlogies are deadly! please email me at blackalf@outlook.com. if you have any further questions . Ken Boit in calgary.

  15. csec and csis
    Ken here again, I have tried finding other blogs and discussion sites on my mentioned topics but I am unable to find no other information my obove topics any leads for me Ken Boit. Please email me at blackalf@outlook.com.

  16. MICHAEL HEROUX says:

    CANADIAN INTELLIGENCE CAN DO WHATEVER THEY WANT
    PRIVACY COMMISSIONER OF CANADA – JUSTICE DEPARTMENT OF CANADA

    Michael Heroux said michaelheroux1967@gmail.com

    The Justice Department Of Canada finally got back to us after ignoring us for over a month. They are now saying they won’t give us our information they have on us to look over, and they told us they will not answer anymore of our requests and to get The Privacy Commissioner Of Canada to investigate why they won’t give us our information. We have contacted The Privacy Commissioner Of Canada numerous times since November 30 2013, the same day the former Privacy Commissioner Of Canada stepped down. We want them to investigate why the The Justice Department Of Canada won’t give us our information, but The Privacy Commissioner Of Canada won’t help us get our information. They keep telling us they need concrete proof for them to investigate to get our information. It doesn’t make sence to us. Since we were told to move back to British Columbia in 2009 from Windsor Ontario for our own safety, we have been kicked out of numerous apartments because of the agents harassment and we have been kicked out of Victoria B.C. and Kamloops B.C. by the police and they are now trying to kick us out of Vancouver British Columbia. They now have 2 apartments around us. They have one beside us and they have one above us. They use both apartments and they are working in shifts. They monitor us from the the above apartment and when the one agent is above us monitoring us the other agent is sleeping in the apartment beside us. Approximately every 12 hours they switch, the one upstairs will move to the lower apartment and rest and the one that is rested will take his place. It has been that way now for over 5 years. We know the agent above us is doing the monitoring because when we start talking about them they will start stomping on the ceiling until we stop talking about them. They will also stomp on the ceiling when we are posting online about them, they will try to block our postings by messing around with our internet and they will start stomping. That is the only time they stomp on the ceiling. They don’t like us talking about them or posting about them. The first assasination attempt against us was in January 2013 when we went to find our one daughter that was working for them to investigate us in 2008. We went back to Windsor Ontario to find her and we were there for a month looking for her but we couldn’t find her. Just before we came back to British Columbia they sent a gunman to murder my family and I. It was later that year in 2013 that a stranger approached us and told us our daughters had been murdered. We are not sure what to do now. We are on Government disability and we cannot afford a lawyer to represent us and the Government won’t give us our information for a lawsuit against them. They won’t let us post on certain forums anymore, not even Craigslist, they keep blocking our posts on there now. In 2008 an agent told us that the Canadian Craigslist servers were controled by the Harper Government. We were told they made a deal with Criag and that Buckmaster guy otherwise they would block them from Canada. Sounds strange to me. They won’t let us post on The Globe And Mail website anymore either. Thanks for reading.