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Canada Labeled a "Pedophile Haven"

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Friday May 25, 2007
Fresh off unsubstantiated claims that Canada is a piracy haven, the media is now reporting that Canada is also a "pedophile haven."  At least two groups are quoted in a CTV article claiming that Canada has lax laws and should require Internet service providers to take stronger action against pedophile and child porn sites.  Moreover, Conservative MP Art Hanger infers that the law should be changed to require ISPs to report sites, even if they are not illegal.

Pedophelia and child pornography are obviously unconscionable and all countries should have strong laws to criminalize such behaviour.  To my knowledge, there is no reason to think that Canada falls short in this regard.  Not only are there criminal code provisions to address these issues, but Canadian ISPs voluntarily launched the controversial Project Cleanfeed initiative to block child pornography images.  Moreover, the OpenNet Initiative summary of Canada and the U.S. leaves no reason to believe that U.S. ISPs face stricter scrutiny or liability for this form of conduct (several U.S. law initiatives have been struck down as unconstitutional).  Everyone wants to find effective tools for addressing this issues, but misleading and inaccurate characterizations of Canadian law is simply not the way to do it.
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bob said:

ME
A Canadian Justice Foundation founder is Shawn Howard. Howard is currently an alderman in Airdrie, Alberta and shills for Pengrowth Management as their Director of Public & Government Affairs. Federally, Airdrie is represented by 71 year old american born and educated Conservative MP Myron Thompson.

If I were a cynic: I'd say Shawn Howard is polishing apples in a hope to claim the Conservative nomination when Thompson hangs up his spurs.

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May 25, 2007

Evan said:

Mr.
Maybe this perception as a "pedophile haven" is due to the John Robin Sharpe case.
May 25, 2007

Brent said:

Hold on a second...
When is the last time anyone stumbled across a "child porn" site by accident? I think I have the answer: never. They don't exist.

It's also not an ISPs job to enforce censorship. We do not need some self-serving, private and back-door tool to be taking things into its own hands.
May 26, 2007

Jeff Rybak said:

Not to ignore the problem...
I'd never go so far as to claim that child pornography on the Internet isn't a problem, but Brent is right to a point. Child porn "sites" aren't really the problem, to my knowledge, anymore. I get the sense it's all moved to p2p. Any time I read about it now, police have busted some kind of group that trades and produces this crap internally. It's pretty easy to bust a website, after all, since it has to be hosted somewhere. Attempts to stop p2p trading are what lead us to the point where some legislators want ISPs to monitor what's coming in and going out of our private systems. I offer that point in the interest of clarity. I don't favor such monitoring, but merely establishing the fact that child porn "sites" seem a myth shouldn't minimize the problem.

That said, I'm really sick and tired of references to Canada as some kind of lawless, liberal haven just north of the goodthinkful idiots down south. I wish we could trade places with the Netherlands sometime, and see what right-wing Americans would have to say about -them- if they only shared a common border. The problem isn't Canada. The problem is being in proximity to the most Conservative regime this side of the Middle East, that gets freaked out by anything it can't control.
May 27, 2007

Korey said:

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As p2p moves towards fully-distributed, fully encrypted transfer, the chance of catching a criminal in this way is exceedingly remote. The only way to do it would involve complete surrender of control of the home PC to the government. Surely there must be a better way to tackle the problem of child-pornography. This way will never work, at least, not for long.
May 29, 2007

Amber said:

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These people have no chance of rehabilitation it has been stated for years! so just neuter them. make there sex drive go away and save our children! why protect these pedopiles rights?? what about our childs rights? either that or just execute these sick people who get off on children!
August 09, 2007

a guest said:

A.B.
Am I the only one bothered by the fact that a repeat offender pedophile is a regular preacher at an Ottawa Baptist Church?

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He was convicted before the new law in Canada was passed that makes a repeat offender a lifelong registered pedophile. If the law was passed a year or so earlier he would have to be registered and controlled by terms like cannot be around children, playgrounds, or alone with children, or take on any position of authority that would give him access to childrenӔ.

So this group of blinded idiots tried to make him pastor but the gov. stopped them for a year by a court order. As soon as the court order was over they had him preaching to the little ones he loves so much.
September 09, 2008

a guest said:

A.B.
The church is Grace Baptist of Ottawa, the split from Westboro Baptist when the assistant Roy Lawrence tried to have the senior pastor kicked out. Even after being exposed, he said in a taped testimony " I leave this church with my head held high".He had been having church kids sleeping over in the months before this happened. Christians can be reall dumb (due to pride) sothosewho left with him still refuse to see God slapping them in the face - as a month after they splitthe church and followed thisman they found out about his past - and would not admit they had been shamed by God...blind or what!
September 09, 2008

Canadasucks said:

Perverted redneck canadians
I hope all you sick, child diddling canadian rednecks die in a fire.
December 23, 2008

just a kid said:

pedo working at children services
was at a friend the other day when some investigator from children services came about his kid brother and it turns out the investigator was a pedophile as he dealt with me before in the past and fondled me and promised he was going to make it all ok and that i would be back with my parents soon and that never happened and he messed up my life big time and now I am messed up because of him and he is in charge of investigating in calgary?? his name is Brad but I don't remember his last name the whole system is messed up when children services are the ones in charge of molesting us and there is no place we can turn to
September 29, 2010

Dennu said:

Perverts and pedophiles are rampant in canada
Our chief justices of canada, should feel the pain, terror and injustice our children indure daily. These supreme justices consciously ignore our children. Because these perverts have more rights than the victims , the pervs still antagonize their victims in full view of public. We can instill our human voice to the united nations council and ask that they help all child victims of this horrid and evil abuse on children end today.
October 05, 2011

Stella said:

slack canadian laws keep these pedophiles in canada
I hope that all theses lawmakers and perverts all burn in hell. Especially since they go hand in hand with devil they serve for now and eternity. Rot in hell you fucken perverts and justices.
October 05, 2011

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