Text: Small Text  Normal Text  Large Text  Larger Text
  • Blog
  • B.C. Supreme Court Dismisses One Crookes Libel Suit

Canadian DMCA: C-61

Why Copyright? Canadian Voices on Copyright Law

Canadian DMCA: 61 Reforms to C-61

Canadian DMCA: What You Need to Know

Posts On Hot Issues

Blog Archive

SMTWTFS
 123456
78910111213
14151617181920
21222324252627
28

B.C. Supreme Court Dismisses One Crookes Libel Suit

PDF  | Print |  E-mail
Tuesday September 04, 2007
The British Columbia Supreme Court today dismissed with costs one of the Crookes libel lawsuits.  The suit against Yahoo!, MySpace and a group of individual defendants, which centred on postings on a Yahoo Groups forum, was dismissed on jurisdictional grounds.  Yahoo successfully argued that it was not subject to B.C. jurisdiction in this case since it has no offices in Canada (as opposed to Yahoo Canada), is not registered to do business in Canada, and does not maintain servers for Yahoo Groups in Canada. 

Given the lack of connection to Canada, the court ruled that Crookes needed to demonstrate that the alleged defamation was committed here.  In order to do so, he needed to show that the allegedly defamatory postings were "accessed, downloaded, and read by someone in British Columbia."  The judge concluded that Crookes failed to tender such evidence and therefore dismissed the case.  Other arguments - including a real and substantial connection analysis or the jurisdictional clause in the Yahoo terms of use were not addressed by the court.
Comments (3)add comment

Seva Batkin said:

law clerk
While I am happy with the result, I do question the logic behind it. I don't believe that the Real and Substantial Connection test can be reduced to such a simple requirement/threshold of a single person, effectively any person - inluding for example a lawyer's secretary - reading the offending material in BC and swearing an affidavit to that extent.
September 05, 2007

Mark Francis said:

...
As an affected defendant, I didn't know this was going public! I received the finding last night. I was going to wait to see if Crookes filed an appeal first.

One thing worth adding this that the GPC_Members Yahoo group was private, members-only, so the audience who read it is actually quite limited. Crookes himself is not known to have direct access to it. He has someone who is who sends him stuff. That person's whereabouts are described as 'elsewhere' -- that is, not BC.

If Crookes fails to appeal (he has 30 days), or if his appeal fails, a good portion of the lawsuit against myself (and several others) is gone, pending a judge's agreement.

He is likely going to need to produce someone who saw the material as published -- that is, viewed on their computer as they accessed the original. I don't see Crookes' lawyer providing it to a legal secretary as working. That's no more credible than the lawyer publicly publishing the material, admitting it, and blaming me for any alleged defamation stemming from it.

Curiously, despite not showing that anyone in BC read the material, he was still able to get Yahoo to remove it in August 2006. I did not know until many months later that the deletions were other than a strange accident or a hacker.

Now, as for his claims of more public libel on wikis and blogs, it remains to be seen what standard applies there. It always was a bit much to be able to demand that content visible to the world should be removed from the Internet because someone in one jurisdiction with excessively restrictive libel law claims it to be libel. I makes far more sense to remove it from only the jurisdiction in question -- after a court order is granted. The is technologically possible, and can be enforced by either the provider of the information, or Internet providers in BC. Is this any less onerous than demanding a book to be removed from BC store shelves?

BC's libel laws outrageously allow a plaintiff up to two entire years to advise a defendant of intent to proceed. (In Ontario, it's two months.) Maybe we should start requiring our readers to NOT be from BC prior to showing them content? Perhaps then BC would become a little more reasonable?

Think of it as a strike.
September 05, 2007

Mark Francis said:

...
"Is this any less onerous than demanding a book to be removed from BC store shelves?"

Should have read:

"Is this any more onerous than demanding a book to be removed from BC store shelves?"

My bad.
September 05, 2007

Write comment
smaller | bigger

busy
Tags:
, , ,
Share: Slashdot, Digg, Del.icio.us, Newsfeeder, Reddit, StumbleUpon, TwitterEmailPrintPDF
Related Items:
 
premarin horse adoption premarin cream premarin side effects premarin vaginal cream premarin withdrawal free premarin side effects of premarin side effects of premarin vaginal cream after menopause premarin iv for treatment of hemmoraghic cystitis hrt and premarin premarin law suit premarin and weight gain buy premarin without a prescription premarin safe premarin and heartburn premarin cream for labial anomalies cheap premarin estrace vs premarin depression from stopping premarin premarin horses premarin hormone no prescription premarin premarin in shampoo premarin every other day premarin without prescription premarin on line premarin treatment depression premarin online without prescription does premarin cause heartburn premarin 10mg buy premarin on line side effects from premarin vaginal cream premarin brand no perscription premarin online without prescriptiom buy premarin online without prescription buy premarin online without prescriptionm feminizing effects of premarin perscription for premarin diarrhea premarin hair color change premarin 0 625mg premarin generic premarin problems premarin lumpectomy premarin keith barton premarin drug class action premarin class action lawsuit premarin iv for treatment of hemorrhagic cystitis canadian premarin can premarin affect rdw levels side effects premarin cream coupon for premarin brand name premarin no perscription free sample of premarin premarin benefits premarin iv for bleeding premarin no prescription premarin for thinning hair premarin weight gain side effects can you take premarin every other day genuine wyeth ayerst premarin discounted what is a generic name for premarin alternative to premarin premarin adoption premarin and cancer premarin side effect premarin side affects premarin estrogen cream premarin no prescription 10mg premarin cream and elderly women premarin problems and side effects is premarin available online buying premarin on line buy premarin on internet buying premarin on internet buying premarin on the internet can premarin tablets be cut in half generic premarin medical reports on premarin vaginal cream side effects diarrhea premarin premarin 3mg premarin therapy premarin topical premarin thailand premarin on line gibralter premarin class action lawsuits premarin cream in labial deformities premarin problems and side effects message boards buy premarin online without prescription m the truth about premarin who makes premarin side effects premarin side effects direaha premarin premarin drug premarin estrogen premarin manufacture premarin weight loss premarin for children premarin vaginal creme premarin message boards premarin causing heartburn premarin cream side effects premarin provera clomiphene premarin derived horse urine premarin with no prescription premarin stomach and back pain is premarin without prescription available online premarin ivf lining ivf premarin diflucan hcg nuvaring premarin yasmin hysterectomy and premarin m2f hormones premarin dose premarin blemishes side effects problems with taking premarin and an antidepressant premarin improve lining is premarin or estrace more effective for vaginal dryness premarin and breast cancer contraindications of premarin premarin alternatives safety of premarin vaginal cream hormones for menopause premarin premarin foals premarin ingredients premarin hormone replacement premarin in the treatment of depression side effects to look for in premarin premarin vag cream premarin and lipitor iv premarin pricing premarin breast cancer premarin toddler jaundice infomation on premarin premarin iv pricing premarin and jaundice premarin horse slaughter premarin news october 15 premarin eqine ingredients premarin conjugated estrogens premarin conjugated estrogens breast cancer us premarin farms still in operation discount premarin premarin studies prescribed premarin premarin dosage color premarin rescue groups premarin stimulate lining ivf premarin and provera side effects 6supplements for premarin adverse side effects of premarin cenestin menest premarin comparison medication question premarin premarin effects premarin from asia premarin law suits premarin controversy problems with premarin premarin is mare urine premarin effects on men premarin quoats veterinarian