ACTA Negotiations, Day Three: Secret Talks on Transparency |
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Thursday November 05, 2009
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The current round of ACTA negotiations wrap up later today in Seoul, Korea. Having spent the first day focused on the now-leaked Internet provisions and the second day on the leaked criminal provisions, negotiators will spend this morning discussing whether they should make the draft treaty public. Many countries continue to face pressure on the transparency issue, with KEI posting a public letter to U.S. President Barack Obama this week on the issue. Past indications are that there is a split - some countries favour making the draft available immediately, while others prefer ongoing secrecy until the treaty is completed. Compromise positions apparently include allowing individual countries to make available text for which they are responsible. At this stage, even ACTA supporters should be supportive of greater transparency. First, everything seems to leak anyways, so the substance of the treaty is already broadly known. Of course, there are specifics that have been shielded from public view, but there is enough out there to have generated an enormous backlash. Second, ACTA is quickly becoming so broadly discredited that it will be nearly impossible to garner public support for the treaty. "The secret copyright treaty" is hardly a selling feature for a treaty that may be dead-on-arrival in the minds of citizens around the world. Third, it is time for countries to make transparency a condition of participation. I have my doubts about the treaty as a whole - the recent Internet leaks should make it a non-starter from a Canadian perspective - but even if the substance is put to the side, governments should not be supporting secretive copyright talks. The talks will end at 12:30 (Seoul time) with the release of a joint statement describing who participated along with a generic statement indicating discussions focused on Internet enforcement, criminal provisions, and transparency matters. It will conclude by indicating that the next round will be hosted by Mexico (most likely) in early 2010. But on a day devoted to secret talks on transparency, governments should drop the diplomatic language and be prepared to open up or get out. Comments (10)
Devil's Advocate
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"Trade Groups" People have to start realizing that ACTA is not "just about copyright". I've said it before, and I'll keep saying it... All these "trade groups" were invented as tools for Big Money to circumvent the processes of sovereign governments in order to install their own control. The fact that everything they do takes place behind closed doors and involves only the world's "elite" and their invited corporate pawns should be enough reason for the rest of us to be thwarting them at every turn. But, alas, it's like the whole world fell into some permanent sleep year ago, judging by the progress these psychopaths have already made right under our noses. I include members of our own Government in that list of psychopaths, as they continue to sell us out to the NWO, while denying even the existence of any of the activities they've been engaging with them. They downplayed NAFTA, and completely denied the very reality of the SPP negotiations, and have allowed American soldiers to station on our lands and fire tear gas at our citizens and trample on their relatives graves, for getting too close to the secretive Bilderberg meetings. ACTA is just one of the many extortion rackets cooked up by the Rockefellers, the Rothschilds, and the rest of the banking elite, as they systematically tear down all forms of world democracy that would stand in their way of their "one-world government" dream. Canada needs to wake up! We're one of the few remaining countries that still prints its own money and isn't "owned" by the World Bank. That will change, if we stay complacent to the actions of our government much longer. If they have their way, we will not even be a sovereign country of our own anymore, instead being a part of a larger "North American Union", which would be run by appointed members of the corporate world (no more "elected government"), and put us in line to become part of a one-world government. We need to stop giving creedance to these "trade conferences" and start calling them out for what they really are... high-end crime in action! |
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New world Order The infasmous New World order, 1 government, 1 currency and 98 per cent of us slaves to the 2 percent that will own us. Surprised?? |
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web developer What would stop a majority government in Canada from ratifying ACTA without public consultation? If the CRTC's recent behaviour is any indication of how online rights will be managed, this scares me. |
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@Devil's Advocate Canadians will never wake up and the reason is simple. If Harper or Ignatieff sense Canadian begining to wake up and start unifying aggainst them, they will aggain try to turn Quebec and the rest of Canada aggainst each other by using their year old tradition of Quebec bashing... Furthermore unlike the rest of Canada, there will be no mention what so ever about ACTA in Quebec. Only people like myself will know... and see slowly but surely the rights slavers(i'll call them like that from now on) start using techniques to controle what you can have on your computer, remotely deleting annything that is aggainst them or using copyright infringement claims aggainst bloggers like Michael Geist to try to shut them up. Remeber Canada, unlike the rest of the world, has a wierd policial echosystem where right or left have little sence but instead the "evil" is percived by the native language of the person who speaks(aka english for Quebecois, french for english canadians). |
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In the Darkness binds them... Obviously the treaty is not good for our society. It is unpopular. Those pushing it know it's wrong. There is no other reason for all the secrecy. Lets pray our "leaders" have enough intelligence and fortitude to walk out. In fact a prerequisite for Canada to even enter these talks should have been transparency. Canada compromises too easily. Canada needs to stand up for what is right. |
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grunt and the EU leads the way with rights that actually have due process included. is this a plot to make smugglers even richer or what? packrat |
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I love this idea. I really hope the conservatives adopt this policy. I can't wait to sit outside of every conservative govt office and every Conservative MP's office in my city, hack their wireless password (I think that is still legal to do, not sure, don't really care) and do naughty things online using their internet connection. I haven't met a security format that isn't hackable yet. It will be fun to get every govt office within reach and get it shut from the internet. I could have so much fun with this. So, I can make lots of money selling wireless passwords to customers bad and good alike. Using an IP as an identifier, how incredibly archaic and stupid. |
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Wake up Canada this whole ACTA treaty is the death of freedom itself, we can't even download a single file without it being labeled as being pirated, even IF that file was downloaded legally, what about music downloaded from sites like Newgrounds audio portal, people put their music on there for a reason TO BE USED by others, not to be listened to on the site, but never downloaded, not only are they targeting royalty free music, but their targeting perchased LEGAL music downloads, I agree with the others, this is just another extortion racket, its bad enough that Obama decided to kill open source alternatives to the "Main stream proprietary programs" when the economy is in the sad state of affairs that its in right now, people can barely afford to feed themselves, and yet their expected to put up with ridiculously stupid high prices that we are expected to pay for the main stream programs, why pay out the arse for Maya when you can install Blender for free, why install microsoft windows when you can install linux, never mind the fact that unlike windows, Linux does not have all the viruses that windows users have to put up with, instead of installing Norton Failsecurity, or McAfee, or any other overly priced subscription based antivirus/internet security programs, when you can save your money for more important stuff, like feeding your starving family and paying rent, because having a computer with all that expensive software is going to do you no good if you suddenly died of hunger of if your out on the street, because of President Obama ruining it for everyone by making everyone waste their hard earned dollars on computer programs and music CD's that cost an arm and a leg to buy. Speaking of which, I don't know about you, but I noticed something, all the newer rock bands play nothing but Emo Emo Emo, its like all the sudden, all other kinds of rock music suddenly ceased to exist, like come on people, give us something thats not going to turn the next generation of kids emo, we need something thats a little happyer, its bad enough that new music sucks hard, but its even worse that the GOOD music is no longer available, you have to look high and low just to find a used copy of your favorite albums, simply because rock bands decided that emo is the best thing ever, well the way I see it, their beating a dead horse with it, its become so redundant, like christ, is this the way rocks going to die? in a pitiful whiny wrist cutting frenzy? fuck that shit, and people wonder why I switched to stuff like Gavbber, Hardcore and jumpstyle, because at least that stuff sounds a whole lot better than nurock, and if its not nurock, then its rap crap, I do not like rap, I don't listen to rap, that stuffs nothing but angry african americans talking about killing eachother and having sex with hookers, and if its not about that, then its just another overglorified advertisement for Nike or Adidas or some other over rated clothing brand, we do not need more advertisements being fed to us through crappy rap music, the good stuff is no longer available to us, the only way to actually get it is through downloads, hell, even the older bands that are still putting out albums, now adays their just putting out one or two good song per album and the rest is just crap, why would we want to pay $20.00's for 16 crappy songs and 2 good songs? that is a waste of money if you ask me, money that could have gone towards putting our kids into college. All in all, this whole ACTA BS is just another way of the US government telling the world to "do what we say or there will be hell to pay" and frankly, its freaking blackmail, plain and simple, Obama thinks that just because he is the President of the United States of America, that he can do whatever the hell he wants, well guess what Obama, you are what we call a Rogue Tyrant Leader who expects the whole world to clap its flippers and perform stupid tricks and play music on a series of clown horns for fish like a bunch of trained seals, eager to please the audience, However, unlike those at Seaworld, instead of a thousand spectators, its one man, our "Cruel master" and instead of rewarding us with fresh fish, we are forced to choke down 7 monyh old fish that is so rotten that would make a maggot barf just looking at it. Well guess what? We aren't clapping our flippers for you, We don't like what you had been up to with these "secret treaties" and I CERTAINLY don't like the fact that you chose NOW of all times. We finally crawl out of the hole of financial ruin, and here you are, like a mischievious giant kid, picking us up by the scruff of our necks and plopping us right back in the hole we crawled out of just moments ago, barely getting a chance to catch our breath, let alone brush ourselves off to take our first few steps on the road of recovery. This needs to end now. |
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Unfortunate Times I'm ashamed to be a citizen of the nation which seems to be pushing hardest for this untenable treaty. But what can a citizen do in a two-party system where each candidate is controlled by their own set of corrupting multinational corporations? My greatest hope is that if nations ratify this treaty into law, the extreme one-sidedness will increase public awareness of the unfortunate state of international copyright law. |
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