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The IP Lobby's Post-Bill C-11 Playbook: ACTA, SOPA, Warrantless Search and the Criminalization of IP

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Friday June 08, 2012
The Canadian intellectual property's lead lobby group, the Canadian IP Council (itself a group within the Canadian Chamber of Commerce) released a new policy document yesterday that identifies its legislative priorities for the coming years. Anyone hoping that the SOPA protests, the European backlash against ACTA, and the imminent passage of Bill C-11 might moderate the lobby group demands will be sorely disappointed. Counterfeiting in the Canadian Market: How Do We Stop It? is the most extremist IP policy document ever released in Canada, calling for the implementation of ACTA, SOPA-style rules including website blocking and stopping search results from resolving, liability for advertisers and payment companies, massive surveillance at the border and through delivery channels including searching through individual packages without court oversight, and spending hundreds of millions of tax dollars on private enforcement.

This long post reviews the report, focusing on the case it makes for addressing counterfeiting concerns in Canada and on the resulting recommendations. The recommendations are divided into five main groups:
  1. Introduce a Canadian SOPA
  2. ACTA Implementation
  3. New Search Powers Without Court Oversight
  4. The Criminalization of Intellectual Property
  5. Massive Increase in Public Spending Creating an IP Enforcement Subsidy
The report is the third from the same groups (Canadian Recording Industry Association, Motion Picture Association - Canada, software groups, and large pharmaceutical companies) in the past five years. In 2007, the Canadian Anti-Counterfeiting Network released A Roadmap For Change (endorsed by the Chamber) and in 2009, the IP Council issued A Time for Change. I covered the copyright policy laundering strategy that involves multiple reports with similar recommendations by related groups here.

The Case for Canadian Counterfeiting: What the Report Says

The report unsurprisingly begins by trying to make the case that Canadian counterfeiting has become a major concern, relying heavily on European and U.S. numbers. There are some references to RCMP seizures, but the data is limited.  Indeed, the report admits that "the lack of clear and credible data makes it difficult to drive policy makers to action and can compound the problem."

The most credible number comes from the OECD, which has estimated global counterfeiting at $250 billion. This represents a huge decline from previous estimates as the Canadian share of this figure, based on 2% of world trade, would be $5 billion. That obviously isn't insignificant, but it pales in comparison to the 2009 IP Council report which claimed the cost could be $22 billion. Last year, the IP Council suggested that the number could actually be $30 billion. Canadian counterfeiting data has long been the source of speculative numbers without evidence or reliable methodology. In 2007, I used RCMP Access to Information requests to reveal that prior estimates were based on nothing more than a single article found on the Internet. The RCMP and government officials no longer cite these unreliable figures.

In fact, the widespread use of unreliable counterfeiting claims has been repeatedly debunked. The CATO Institute did a nice job of taking U.S. claims to task earlier this year, while the world's most comprehensive study on media piracy, Media Piracy in Emerging Economies thoroughly dismantles numerous piracy claims (the study was partially funded by Canada's IDRC).  Perhaps the most authoritative debunking comes the U.S. government, whose General Accounting Office conducted a comprehensive study into the claims and concluded that they could not "be substantiated or traced back to an underlying data source or methodology."

The report also claims that there are significant links between counterfeiting and organized crime, citing a 2009 Rand Corporation study on the issue. Yet that study was also debunked by the IDRC funded report which noted:

Arguing that piracy is integral to such networks means ignoring the dramatic changes in the technology and organizational structure of the pirate market over the past decade. By necessity, evidentiary standards become very loose. Decades-old stories are recycled as proof of contemporary terrorist connections, anecdotes stand in as evidence of wider systemic linkages, and the threshold for what counts as organized crime is set very low. The RAND study, which reprises and builds on earlier IFPI and Interpol reporting, is constructed almost entirely around such practices. Prominent stories about IRA involvement in movie piracy and Hezbollah involvement in DVD and software piracy date, respectively, to the 1980s and 1990s. Street vendor networks in Mexico City—a subject we treat at length in the Mexico chapter— are mischaracterized as criminal gangs connected with the drug trade. Piracy in Russia is attributed to criminal mafias rather than to the chronically porous boundary between licit and illicit enterprise. The Pakistani criminal gang D-Company, far from “forging a clear pirate monopoly” in Bollywood, in RAND’s words, plays a small and diminishing part in Indian DVD piracy—its smuggling networks dwarfed by local production.

The report also points to a single death in 2007 reportedly due to the ingestion of counterfeit medicine. That is obviously a tragic and unacceptable incident, but the report might note that in the broader context, death due to legitimate prescription drugs are the fourth leading cause of death in Canada and the United States with tens of thousands of deaths in Canada every year due to the wrong drug, dosage errors, or adverse reactions. At the same time, Canadian Internet pharmacies serve millions of patients every year.

The report unsurprisingly cites criticism from the U.S. and Europe on Canadian practices. The U.S. placement of Canada on the Priority Watch list receives the usual mention, even though the placement on the list is the result of lobbying from the same groups who are behind this report. The Canadian government position on the U.S. complaints, as described to a House of Commons committee in 2007 (and repeated regularly in internal government documents), sees this for what it is:

In regard to the watch list, Canada does not recognize the 301 watch list process. It basically lacks reliable and objective analysis. It's driven entirely by U.S. industry. We have repeatedly raised this issue of the lack of objective analysis in the 301 watch list process with our U.S. counterparts.

The same could be said for this report.

The Case for Canadian Counterfeiting: What the Report Doesn't Say

Just as important as what the report says, is what it doesn't say. The report doesn't mention that
the Business Software Alliance recently released its annual global software piracy report with new data that not only shows that Canada hit yet another all-time low but has the biggest percentage decline in the world over the past five years. For the past few years, the BSA report has repeatedly found that piracy is declining in Canada. In 2009, Canada was characterized as a "low piracy country", in 2010 the industry noted that Canada's piracy rate was at an all-time low, and last year it dropped further to another all-time low.The latest report says the Canadian piracy rate dropped further in 2011. In fact, over the past five years, the Canadian rate has dropped by 18% (from 33% to 27%), the sharpest decline in the world.

The report doesn't mention that the Entertainment Software Association of Canada's own data, as found in a commissioned a study last year on the major issues facing the industry, finds that piracy is not a major concern. The reference to copyright and piracy as a concern was so low - barely above concerns about an economic recession - that report did not discuss it further. Instead, it focused on the real risks to the video game industry, namely competitive issues, the need for talent (many in the industry recognize that focusing on education may be more important than copyright), and government support.

The report also doesn't mention that Canada stands among the global leaders in digital music sales. As I noted earlier this week, according to the IFPI data, Canadians purchased 94.2 million single track downloads in 2011, making it the third largest market in the world (trailing only the U.S. and UK). The Canadian numbers represented a 39% increase in sales, far ahead of the U.S. (8% growth) and U.K. (10% growth). The data shows Canadians purchased more single track downloads than Germany or Japan, and more than double the sales in France, despite the fact that each of those countries has far larger populations. In fact, Canadian sales were larger than all the sales from Austria, Belgium, Croatia, Finland, France, Greece, Ireland, the Netherlands, Portugal, Spain, and Sweden combined.

The report neglects the broader international developments in this area. If you're looking for references to the backlash against the Anti-Counterfeiting Trade Agreement by four European Parliament committees (and perhaps soon the full Parliament) you won't find it here. You also won't find references to the decision of the Dutch Parliament to reject ACTA, the announcement that Romania won't ratify it, and Switzerland's decision to place the agreement on hold. You will not find discussion of the backlash against SOPA that effectively killed the top legislative initiative of the copyright lobby earlier this year in the United States. There is no discussion of the Kenyan High Court's ruling that country's anti-counterfeiting statute is unconstitutional nor analysis of the criticism from the European Data Protection Supervisor or the United Nations Special Rapporteur on Freedom of Expression.

You also will not find references to what Canada has been doing in the area. For example, the Megaupload case is discussed but there is no disclosure that Canada participated in the case using existing law. There is also little discussion of the million dollar awards that Canadian courts have issued in IP enforcement cases in recent years.

The report contains virtually no discussion of Canadian companies that are implicated by counterfeiting in Canada. There is a case study of Canada Goose, but no evidence provided that it faces a serious counterfeiting problem in Canada. Further, most of the other major brands - luxury handbags and watches, brand name pharmaceuticals, movies and other copyright works - are rarely Canadian in origin. While this does not mean these products do not deserve protection (they do), the implications for Canadian companies is far less significant than the report suggests.  Given the demands (discussed below) for millions in public tax dollars to fund enforcement initiatives, it is worth noting that the expenditures would largely involve Canadian tax dollars providing an enforcement subsidy to foreign companies.

Best Practices and Recommended Reforms

The second half of the report is devoted to "best practices" and the IP Council's recommendations for Canadian law. I combine these two sections since they feed off each other with references to supposed best practices that later surface as recommendations for Canadian reform. I would have engaged in a deeper discussion of the supposed best practices, but there are two major shortcomings. 

First, there are multiple references to practices that do not include a citation or identification of a particular country that has adopted the policy. For example, the report states:

Both legislative and non-legislative projects view the ISPs as crucial players for their ability to block websites from the users or simply not “resolve” or complete the search query.

Is this a reference to the failed SOPA proposal or is there a country that has legislated that ISPs not resolve or complete search queries?

Second, there is virtually no evidence provided on the effectiveness of these measures. They are simply provided as a laundry list of extreme legislative initiatives that are designed to leave the reader with the impression that they are effective and should be matched in Canada.

As for the recommended reforms, they fall into five broad baskets:

1.  Introduce a Canadian SOPA

SOPA may be dead in the U.S., but the IP lobby is anxious to revive it in Canada. SOPA targeted ISPs with website blocking as well as measures focused on payment intermediaries and online advertising networks. In addition to the quote above that even targets resolving search queries, the report states:

The existence of remedies that include blocking orders, domain seizure and contributory liability are useful tools to encourage the cooperation of intermediaries who do not wish to be involved in the illicit activity.

It adds that:

positive relationships between rights holders and these intermediaries, including online payment processors, search engines, Internet service providers, online advertisers, online retailers, web auction sites, web hosting providers, domain name system (DNS) registries and social media platforms, can provide the basis for cooperation in the prevention of counterfeit distribution. This relationship requires the support of government.

To develop these remedies and relationships, the report features three recommendations:
  1. Amend Canadian law to introduce the ability to obtain injunctions against third-party intermediaries as suggested by Article 8.1 of ACTA.
  2. Introduce provisions of Canadian law to ensure that those who induce, jointly act with or materially aid and abet another person in committing an infringement of copyright or trade- mark are also infringing the law.
  3. Proactively engage in facilitating discussion, toward a memorandum of understanding, between rights holders and intermediaries in Canada, with a view to creating simple private remedies to combat counterfeiting and piracy.
If adopted, these recommendations would fundamentally reshape copyright law and the Internet in Canada. The vision is to create new liability for ISPs, block access to websites, and target a myriad of intermediaries. This is an Internet where websites are inaccessible to Canadians, search queries don't resolve, and individual online purchases are searched, all with the full cooperation of ISPs, search engines, and social networks. Even the U.S. discarded many of these proposals with the defeat of SOPA, but this report recommends that Canada implement the rejected provisions.

2.   ACTA Implementation

Despite the fact that ACTA has become widely discredited and is on the verge of being rejected by the European Parliament, the report recommends major changes under Canadian law in order to comply with the agreement:

This agreement introduces numerous provisions that will require amendments to Canadian law, including provisions which require the introduction of ex officio powers for border officials in order for this country to keep up with international best practices.

While ACTA raises numerous concerns (discussed in my report for the European Parliament's INTA Committee), many provisions are optional rather than mandatory. The IP lobby report is demanding changes that extend beyond those required by ACTA.

3.   New Search Powers Without Court Oversight

One of the most disturbing aspects of the report is its insistence on a massive expansion of search powers without court oversight. The Canadian Chamber of Commerce has argued for improving efficiencies at the border, yet now it wants to slow things down by increasing inspections, including small packages containing individual purchases. For example, the report expresses concern that Canadians can acquire counterfeit products through small shipments. It notes:

Mechanisms to address online infringement and the shipment of small quantities of counterfeit goods continues to be a problem for customs officials.

The IP lobby therefore wants new provisions to increase powers to conduct border searches of goods and intercepting small packages without a court order. Proposed reforms include:
  1. Introduce ex officio powers for border officials that give these officials the ability to detain, seize and destroy counterfeit products outside the normal channels of commerce.
  2. Identify new remedies and approaches that can address the challenge of small shipments of counterfeit goods that do not require the rights holder to obtain a court order to suspend each and every shipment.
  3. Develop a system for recordation of rights. Such a system will ensure that border officials have the information they need to effectively exercise ex officio powers.
The core of these proposals envision widespread searches and seizures without court oversight. Border guards would be empowered to increase their search activities and rights holders could provide more information on their products so that customs officials would be encouraged search and seize products in small packages without court oversight or review.

4.   The Criminalization of Intellectual Property

The report calls for multiple legislative reforms that would add new criminal provisions to Canada's intellectual property laws. These include:
  1. Introduce criminal provisions for wilful trade- mark infringement to make the Trade-marks Act consistent with the Copyright Act and international best practices.
  2. Introduce provisions to make it illegal to import counterfeit goods under the Customs Act.
  3. Introduce provisions in the Criminal Code that make wilful trade-mark counterfeiting a criminal offence.
These proposals are incredibly broad. For example, making it illegal to import counterfeit goods (without at least carve outs for de minimis amounts or importation without knowledge or intent) could be applied to individuals, resulting in long wait times at borders and the potential for criminal liability to individual travellers. Further, as noted below, the costs of enforcing criminal provisions will be borne by the public.

5.    Massive Increase in Public Spending Creating an IP Enforcement Subsidy

The report has several recommendations that would require the government to spend millions of dollars enforcing private rights. The criminalization of intellectual property discussed above is designed to increase public enforcement of private rights. Unlike the current system, which typically requires rights holders to assert their rights through civil litigation (an approach that has recently yielded million dollar awards), the move toward criminal provisions would require government prosecutors to act on behalf on rights holders. This represents a huge enforcement subsidy. Moreover, the report recommends:
  1. The government must encourage enforcement officials to seek strong remedies in the case of IPR infringements and ensure prosecutors exploit the full range of remedies available to them, including the proceeds of crime regime.
  2. Develop a team of properly funded and dedicated enforcement professionals in order to effectively face the challenges presented by counterfeiting in the digital age. In the absence of such a team, it will be impossible to respond to the challenges of small shipments of counterfeit product delivered online, and Canada will not be effectively positioned to partner with our international counterparts in tackling multinational operations.
  3. Create an interagency intellectual property council consisting of senior officials from various government departments, including the Department of Justice and the RCMP, with the mandate to develop public education programs, initiatives for law enforcement and policy.
  4. Establish a specialized IP crime task force to guide and lead anti-counterfeiting and anti-piracy enforcement efforts in Canada.
The creation of new agencies, task forces, enforcement teams, and education programs are all part of a systemic effort to shift costs to the public. Far more evidence on the likely effectiveness is needed before government should consider diverting millions from health care and education programs toward IP enforcement for predominantly foreign rights holders.
Comments (76)add comment

zb said:

...
ok what a bunch of crap. As far as the website blocking goes why the heck should we all be punished for one(or many)person actions. its all crap and shouldn't be token seriously. plus you'd think they learn from sopa's defeat and acta slowing being discreidted. but i guess not.
June 08, 2012

Spike said:

...
Did anyone actually think that they would stop after getting C-11 passed?

C-11 is just their feet in the door, the worst is yet to come and I'm sure Harperco is willing to go every step of the way to please them.

Expect Canada to be on the 301 priority watch list next year too because C-11 doesn't "go far enough."
June 08, 2012

BillG said:

Why are we pandering to the US?
I'd really like to understand why the Canadian government and Harper and his cronies insist on pandering to the US? Is it just to curry favour for energy deals? There is nothing in this for, you know, serving the Canadian public. A recent report showed Canadians are the heaviest legit digital music buyers. Again proving we are not a piracy haven. The US is build an IP wall (this is more than movies/music this is patents and trademarks,etc) around itself and its closest bullied allies. The rest of the world is freeing itself of the US model and innovating. Canadians need to decide if their future is with the US or the rest of the world.
June 08, 2012

Booboo said:

>>>>
This is getting so tiresome seriously!
June 08, 2012

Jason said:

I wonder...
...how the industry would be like had they simply used a fraction of their effort that they have put towards counteracting piracy towards actually innovating and changing their business models.
June 08, 2012

CW said:

...
Excellent news! If our part of the blame has fallen from $30 billion to $5 billion without SOPA style laws, then we don't need to change.

Just trying to think like these twits ;)
June 08, 2012

Crockett said:

Running scared, pushing hard ...
The copyright extremist camp is running scared as almost all of their latest escapades have failed or backfired. Instead of willing to operate in good faith or move in the direction of the market, they are apparently making every attempt to push back and down harder than ever.

What is a definition of insane ... Trying to do the same thing over and over expecting the results to be different?

Good luck with that.
June 08, 2012

Not Fair said:

This is mad...
What are they going to do next. Arrest people for 'not' buying the most popular of media?

When are the sheep going to wake up, someone tell me please.

I thought we lived in a free county, I guess we don't.

June 08, 2012

Ted Lemon said:

It might be cheaper...
...to just give the cash directly to the copyright extremists rather than spending it on enforcement.
June 08, 2012

Mark said:

...
This strikes me as a an almost kamikaze barrage, and I can't seriously think they expect all of these to pass, but their agenda may be that by bringing up so many hot issues at the same time, they may hope that it will not be possible for any criticisms to fully address them all before some get to their final reading, and some of them may get through it all unscathed.
June 08, 2012

Chris Brand said:

Be careful what you wish for
I *almost* hope the government just decides to give them all they're asking for. The backlash would be so great that we'd probably end up electing a government on a pledge to scrap copyright altogether!
June 08, 2012

Byte said:

Overreach by 100% to get your goal
Very old strategy. You want 100, you ask for 200. Other guys go what?! 50! You go: well, 150. other guy: 75. You: no, 125. Other guy; 100 final offer. You: wellllllll OK then.

This haggling happens standard on markets in the "less developed" world. When the tourism just started (say 70s) and the local would go '200!' and the tourist would pop down the 200 (in dollars still a bargain) their eyes would go round and think you are crazy for not haggling.

This is exactly what is going on now. Except we're being sold something we either already have, or do not want in the first place. There should be no haggling on this, just a solid "SCR*W YOU!" and do the exact opposite: copyright to 10-20 years *after publication*, copyright lessened in scope so it does not encompass private not-for-profit copying (i.e. it's not "an exception" or a "fair use" - it just doesn't apply at all).

The only way to make this happen is with the Greens or the Pirate Party, and you know with the first-past-the-post electoral system, chances are near zero.

June 08, 2012

Concerned Citizen said:

???
All this crap talk now but we haven't even passed C-11 yet, what in the hell is happening with that???? Is Parliament going on summer break soon, is C-11 passing before or after? no answers yet we won't forgot if that's there plan.
June 08, 2012

I listened to a song last week said:

At least they can't have my left nut
I had to use that to pay royalties for my birthday song.
June 08, 2012

Average Guy said:

Go pound sand
If all this crap passes I am hoping to sue all those bastards. Criticize my choice in music but I bought the Guess Who's Running across Canada CD and I played it until it was pretty much worn out so I went to go buy a new one, well guess what it's no longer available and this was after just a year of it coming out. So the only way to get it again was to download it off the net. So until every piece of music is available for purchase at anytime, they can all go pound sand
June 08, 2012

Some Guy said:

I'm just wondering...
How would Canadians react to those provisions and the possible backlash against it.

If laws like that were ever introduced into parliament, I would imagine that they would gain pubic awareness (on the news and the internet), lots of criticism against provisions, and eventually lots of pubic protests similar to the ones against SOPA and ACTA. (In fact I'm already seeing some negative press against the provisions on the internet)

Personally, I'm really concerned and disturbed about the IP Lobby's demands, but I have a feeling that there is a good chance that these provisions might not be made into law. The Conservative Government had rejected similar demands (for changes to bill c-11) made by various lobbyists earlier this year.

However, Canadians should be made aware about the potential threats made to our freedom and privacy, and let the government know that we will not tolerate it! (through emails, letters, tweets, and even public protests if we have to) We should allow our voice to be heard, before it is too late. I am confident that we have potential to kill this,(just like SOPA, PIPA, ACTA and even bill c-61 back in 2008) if we are willing to not go down without a fight. If nothing was done about SOPA, ACTA, etc. it would be very likely that these laws would pass.
June 08, 2012

Cost to Small and Medium Sized Businesses said:

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I'm getting the distinct impression here that the Chamber is NOT acting on behalf of the majority of its members. The digital locks provisions we have now will see a huge increase in IT overhead for small to medium sized businesses, and leave many of them currently vulnerable to litigation due to fair use rights being hindered when one breaks a digital lock. I've tried to get the Chamber on record on this. So far they haven't responded:

http://jkoblovsky.wordpress.com/2012/05/31/smes-to-see-at-least-a-75-increase-in-it-on-copyright/

Wondering if I can get you for an interveiw Geist for my up and coming podcast to talk about the costs of the digital lock provisions to SME's.
June 08, 2012

Jason K said:

...
Sorry for the above, meant to put the Cost to Small and Medium Sized Businesses in the title not the name..lol TGIF

Jason
June 08, 2012

Joe said:

The Programmer
This week there was IPV6 day, the Flame Virus and now these 'Laws'

Cryto everywhere all the time, over IPV6 and then all the overhead of these laws?

And then some bozo from Gartner is going to stir the users up that IT does not respond to frivolous user needs like social networking and tablets.

And the Controller is going to wonder where all this money is going.

And the Boss is going to wonder what IT is working on, when they should have been deploying software to slay the competition.

Fine Harper. Find Toews. Just throw that in my inbox.

June 08, 2012

Crickey said:

@Some Guy
CONS did reject all that in C-11 but then came out with Bill C-30 which would be just as bad as the same stuff they rejected. They could see everything we do and take down websites.
June 08, 2012

everyone said:

Conflation
They're conflating issues, like Vic Towes equivocation argument for C-30. Counterfeit medications aren't the same as MP3s. Creating "organized crime, serious illness and death" (Chris Gray, cgray@chamber.ca) is already criminal without "adoption of the proper legislation". Of course, when their organization's name includes false equivalence (Intellectual Property -- copyright is trademark is patent is property is a right), bad argument is expected.
June 08, 2012

Royal Highness said:

...
All standing politicians in every party should be pissed on, in public, if this bill ever gets passed. I would love to see who padded their offshore bank accounts and who gets a Christmas card. Will the politicos learn anything when the shit hits the fan and citizens go wild in the streets? I doubt it because they will be surrounded by heavy security and their weaponry just like Syria.
June 08, 2012

KL said:

I can see it now...
The death of net neutrality. A tiered system
to pick your favourite "unfringing" sites you
may have access to.

Youtube, if not inaccessible, will give us
the pleasure of watching teenagers ranting
over unimportant pop culture things, and what
fashions and accessories they prefer.

And all for the low, low price of...$60/mo

The big corps have their way, and our
freedoms on the internet will be going
the way of the dodo.

ISP's watching our every page visit and
keystroke. Oh yeah, it just keeps getting
better and better. lol
June 09, 2012

JDulle said:

@Chris Brand
I agree. If such provisions were made into law, I would imagine that there would be a huge backlash from the general public.

The demands that the IP lobbyists want not only affect people who download movies and music and socialize on Facebook, but almost everyone in Canada. It would be interesting to see what kind of reaction the people would have if they suddenly found that the rights the once (and should)have are suddenly taken away.

I know for a fact that most people would not just sit down and accept it.
June 09, 2012

jj said:

why harper caters to US
So they will give him money. Just like Mulrone. Conservatives sell out period. it makes me sick.
June 10, 2012

KL said:

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@JDulle

You'd be surprised at how many people are
unaware of this horrible bill. Many times
I'd posted stories from here to my FB profile
and had never gotten a comment. I even
posted last night how it would go beyond
just punishing online infringers. I also
described the digital lock rules, and
how format shifting would not be permitted
if that particular media had a digital lock
on it. No response. But hey, I know some
family members who voted Con. lol


Some people may be too busy with their lives
or really haven't been paying attention to
how this bill may effect them.

A lot of damage can be done in four years
of Conservative rule. Anyone who can afford
not to feel the pinch should do just fine.
Anyone, even to upper middle class who voted
Con should be kicking themselves after
their four year term is up.
June 10, 2012

Napalm said:

...
Anyone can list the members of this "Canadian IP Council"?
June 10, 2012

JDulle said:

@KL
You make a good point, a lot of people are unaware of what is going on with the Canadian government. I really want to do something that would gain public awareness with these terrible bills and speak out against them.(before they pass).

If these bill were ever to pass, a lot of people would notice (mainly if they found out that their favorite website has been blocked) and there would be an huge uproar, and that would be when the public would finally be aware of the new copyright laws and react negatively (I don't really know what would actually happen if they do pass, it is just my prediction)

If you have any suggestions on how to get my voice heard against these bills (to the public and to the parliament), I would be happy to hear out it.
June 11, 2012

KL said:

...
@JDulle

Any social site like Twitter would be
a good place to start. Stop spying.ca
is a place where you can send your MP
a letter, showing your concern over Bill
C-30 (online surveillance bill)

My Guess is a lot of people who voted
Con are naive enough to think that the
Conservative party would never try to
take away their freedoms and rights.
They are in for a rude awakening if
not enough people take a stand against
Bills C-11 and C-30.

Still not all, but a lot of Bill C-11 is
bad, especially where it concerns the
digital lock rules, and letting the
big US movie and music companies sue
Canadians. That's just going too far.
June 11, 2012

someone_from_intrnets said:

...
I guess there is no other problems in Canada beside the IP bullshit. No other problem to be solved by government.
That good news for all of us!
June 11, 2012

someone_from_intrnets said:

...
I've read the paper, but didn't see or understand. Canadian business losing X million CADs per year.
But I didn't see cost of potentially new law enforcement. How much would it cost US to pay for that?
June 11, 2012

JDulle said:

@KL
I couldn't agree more with you (regarding those who voted Conservative) Maybe in four years(during the next election) people will finally smarten up and vote for another party.

Sad thing is, I wish we can do that sooner, and not have to wait four years.
June 11, 2012

KL said:

...
@JDulle

Everyone ha the right to vote for whom
they wanted. The small percentage of people
who got out to vote, got their way. Or Did
they? We'll see.

Don't forget the possibility of election
fraud. If the Conservatives are guilty
of it, I hope they nail them prior to
C-11 and C-30 are passed!
June 12, 2012

Blem said:

Interneter
"You're either with us or with the Child Pornographers" - OMG - AMAZING! - Jed Clampett and the good old boys are running the CDN show:

"A recent USA study connecting political views and intelligence has shown that the mean adolescent intelligence of young adults who identify themselves as "very liberal" is 106.4, while that of those who identify themselves as "very conservative" is 94.8. Two other studies conducted in the UK reached similar conclusions."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intelligence_quotient

Companies know how to play to these hillbillies weaknesses.
June 12, 2012

JDulle said:

@KL
I'm well aware that people get to vote for whatever party they wanted. I just wonder why so many people would vote for Conservative, even though we all know what a lousy job they are already doing (before the election)

By the way, what is election fraud anyway?
June 12, 2012

KL said:

...
@JDulle

This article should give you an idea of
what vote fraud is.

http://www.vancouverobserver.com/world/canada/2012/02/27/robogate-election-scandal-11-robo-call-ridings-linked-conservatives-11-seat

You and I think the Conservatives did a lousy
job with their minority govt, prior to getting
their majority. I know people who actually thought
they were doing a good job. Although, the opposition
parties were able to keep the Cons from doing any
real damage at the time.

Once the Cons won the last election, I knew
what was going to happen. Taking from the
poor to give to the rich. The opposite of
Robin Hood. lol.

Some people are real bull headed, and it's
black and white with them. No grey area.
My best friend said he voted Con because
Harper's a family man and religious. lol
Any my friend isn't even close to being
wealthy. He may have to learn the hard
way.

I was on the Sportsnet forums the other day.
One guy posted he would never vote NDP
simply because of Bob Rae, who was the
Premier of Ontario, back in the late 80's.
That's over 22 years ago, for Pete's sake!

I also have read, and it indicates a fear
from some people who voted Con, that they
feared an NDP federal government, worrying
they'd put all the budget money into social
programs. I doubt the NDP party would be
that stupid.

Believe it or not, the NDP run Provincial
Provinces in the past, had perfectly balanced
budgets out west, from what I'd heard.
June 12, 2012

artthegreen said:

...
they vote con because they believe in just world theory, that only bad things happen to bad people and good to good people, and everyone who isnt doing as well as they are just aren't working hard enough. this theory ignores all the special advantages they enjoy by not being on the receiving end of institutional racism (or any other reason someone might not get treated fairly), instead all problems are caused by the poor, them and and their bleeding heart advocates are all just lazy whiners who want a handout.. from the paychecks of the good people. this worldview doesnt benefit them in anyway, as they now have to work even harder for less and less money as the social policies they voted against were actualyl benefitting them... the theory is being played to to get them to vote against their own best interest. that's what vic toews was trying to do when he said that.. stupid thing about his stupid bill. maybe it backfired against him.
June 18, 2012

Jessica Ruiz said:

Thanks To Dr Shiva
My name is Jessica Ruiz from Florida I have to give this miraculous testimony, which is so unbelievable until now. I had a problem with my Ex husband 2years ago, which lead to our break up. when he broke up with me, I was not my self again, i felt so empty inside me, my love and financial situation became worst, until a close friend of mine Lucy told me about a spell caster who helped her in the same problem too his name is Dr Shiva. I email Dr Shiva the spell caster and i told him my problem and i did what he asked of me, to cut the long story short. Before i knew what was happening my husband gave me a call and told me that he was coming back to me in just 2days and was so happy to have him back to me. We have two kids together and we are happy with ourselves. Thanks to Dr Shiva for saving my relationship and for also saving others own too. continue your good work, If you are interested to contact him and testify this blessings like me, the great spell caster email address is:hinduspelltemple@yahoo.com you are the best among all the spell caster online I hope you see my testimonies and also pray for my family too.
October 05, 2012

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October 18, 2012

stephanie said:

thanks
Hello everybody. Am STEPHANIE from FLORIDA i want to share my life experience to every body on this site. i was in a serious relationship with mike i love him so much we have dated for almost 6 years now. until he meant another girl called charity he told me that he is know longer interested in dating me any more. i was so confuse i don't know what to do so i told my friend about what my love just told me and he told me that she can solve my problem i was doubting her how can that be possible so she directed me to a spell caster called DR voodoo .so i contacted him and i explain every thing to him and he told me that my problem will be solved within 2days if i believe i said OK .So he caste_ a spell for me and after 2days my love came back to me begging me on his knees on the ground asking me to forgive him. And I was surprise just like a dream and today Am so happy now. so that why i decided to share my experience with every body incase there is anyone out there that have such problem should contact him via voodoospiritualtemple@yahoo.com
March 08, 2013

jena benson said:

thank for your help doctor

Dr dodogods I LOVE YOU. YOU ARE THE BEST . This is a fantastic email site. It is the best site I have ever been in……I am not really sure HOW I found this email actually…….. I was looking at something else and went of on a tangent within my browser. Suddenly I felt this word in my head and just typed it in. “LOVE”…..my second thought was I need some love in my life. Then your site just came up in front of my eyes I cant explain the feeling I got it was incredible. I felt like my guardians were guiding me to ask you for the help I need to bring love into my life. THEY WERE SO RIGHT>MY life has been transformed and I owe it all to you. I have love I am so happy I am excstatic. THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU .dodogodssolution@yahoo.com for the good works posted by/ jena benson form U.S.A
March 17, 2013

mark Andersen said:

testimony


This was even faster than I could dream of, dr.rivers(dr.rivershebalisthome@gmail.com). Thank you for taking time to listen to me and answering all my emails. I feel emotional strong again. My confidence is back and I see my future clearly. I am forever grateful for your help for re-uniting me with my old lover.

mark Andersen, Seattle, new york
March 17, 2013

Nicki minaje said:

i am so happy today


miss Nicki minaje
I had to write to you even though I am now at work…a beautiful vase of red roses was just delivered to my office….from the man of my dreams…the man I contacted you about…and through your magic, he returned to me….all differences worked out, no more mistrust, no more lies…because Dr.dodogods realizes we are spiritual Beings first, you can contact and help our spirits and those we love….my red roses are proof of that! Thank you. he can still do it for you contact him now email dodogodssolution@yahoo.com posted by miss Nicki minaje
March 17, 2013

rosa said:

thanks you so much


my name is rosa
My ex-boyfriend dumped me two weeks ago after I accused him of seeing someone else and insulting him. I want him back in my life but he refuse to have any contact with me. I was so confuse and don't know what to do, so I reach to the internet for help and I saw a testimony of how a spell
caster help people to get their ex back so I contact the spell caster and explain my problem to him and he cast a spell for me and assure me of 48hours that my ex will return to me and to my greatest surprise the third day my ex came knocking on my door and beg for forgiveness. I am so happy that my love is back again and not only that, we are about to get married. Once again thank
you dr.kokotemple. You are truly talented and gifted. Email: dr.kokotemple@gmail.com is the only answer. He can be of great help and I will not stop publishing him because he is a wonderful man
March 17, 2013

helen said:

Greetings to every body that is reading this testimony.


Greetings to every body that is reading this testimony.

Me and my boyfriend were seriousely in love for six years and we were planning to get married but one day he came to my house and told me he was no longer interested in our relationship simply because he was dating another rich lady who promise to buy him a car and to sponsor their wedding. And i suffer heartbreak for seven months and i was not tired of loving him.so i take a bold step by contacting a spell caster who help me bring my ex boyfriend back. he is powerful and great his contact is churchofproblemsolvedchurch@yahoo.com you can also contact him for help
March 17, 2013

gina said:

love spell


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March 17, 2013

SHIRA said:

SPELL CASTER
My name is Priestess Shira and I am a Professional Traditional Spells Healer, specializing in the fields of Love, Money, Power, Success, Sickness, Luck and Witch Craft. I can help you with any problem or wish that you might have.
I have more than 20 years experience in the field of Spell Casting / Spiritual Healing. Over the years I have worked for thousands of clients in more than 50 countries all over the world. My services are hugely in demand which is proof of the success I am achieving on a day to day basis.
Do you have love problems / issues that you need sorted out? We have a variety of love spells that will change your life forever. Have you lost a loved one? Are you in love with someone who doesn’t seem to care about you? Is your loved one in love with someone else? Call me NOW and I will summon all my powers to make your dreams come true.
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June 10, 2013

Andy sowers said:

THANK TO DR VOODOO
An amazing testimony on a spell caster who brought my wife back to me..
My name is Andy Sowers,i live in Australia,and I'm happily married to a lovely and caring wife,with two kids.A very big problem occurred in my family seven months ago,between me and my wife.so terrible that she took the case to court for a divorce.she said that she never wanted to stay with me again,and that she didn't love me anymore.So she packed out of my house and made me and my children passed through severe pain. I tried all my possible means to get her back,after much begging,but all to no avail.and she confirmed it that she has made her decision,and she never wanted to see me again.
So on one evening,as i was coming back from work,i met an old friend of mine who asked of my wife.So i explained every thing to her,so she told me that the only way i can get my wife back,is to visit a spell caster,because it has really worked for her too.So i never believed in spell,but i had no other choice,than to follow her advice. Then she gave me the email address of the spell caster whom she visited.{voodoospiritualtemple@yahoo.com}.
So the next morning,i sent a mail to the address she gave to me,and the spell caster assured me that i will get my wife back the next day.What an amazing statement!! I never believed,so he spoke with me,and told me everything that i need to do. Then the next morning, So surprisingly, my wife who didn't call me for the past seven {7}months,gave me a call to inform me that she was coming back.So Amazing!! So that was how she came back that same day,with lots of love and joy,and she apologized for her mistake,and for the pain she caused me and my children. Then from that day,our relationship was now stronger than how it were before,by the help of a spell caster.
So, i will advice you out there to kindly visit the same website {voodoospiritualtemple@yahoo.com},if you are in any condition like this,or you have any problem related to "bringing your ex back.
So thanks to the Dr voodoo for bringing back my wife,and brought great joy to my family once again.
{voodoospiritualtemple@yahoo.com},
Thanks
June 12, 2013

stella said:

Dr olumba an awesome helper
Have been married for 4 years with no child and its really affecting my marriage.my husband has turned me to his enemy,he doesn't come home again,when I met my friend Chloe and

she told me about Dr Olumba then i went online and i was lucky to read alot about him, how he helped so many people in restoring back their marriage, getting them jobs, healing the

sick and helping people with money spell and more.so i email Dr Olumba and explained my problem,he said i should relax and give him just 48hrs, the second day he requested for my

picture and my husbands and he also told me he will get some items in market in casting the Child spell for me and i sent all required fee to get the items in the market, then he sent

me all and on Friday my husband came back home ,we made love as directed, the following week i went to the hospital and the Dr confirmed am 1 week pregnant, my husband jumped

up and was so happy, we both living lovely and now am 3 weeks pregnant.all thanks to Dr Olumba for his marvelous works..There people, Dr Olumba is the real spell caster online and

he will help you in any problem you are facing, I can Give you 100% assurance on him, here is the contact : olumbaspirituallproblemsolver@gmail.com +254705725785

Stella
Canada
June 20, 2013

laser said:

AM HAPPY TODAY IS THE HELP OF DR ODUDU THAT HELP ME TO BRING BACK MY LOVER BACK
the whole world most here this that Dr odudu bring back my lover back in 48hours i think i can never get him again with the help of dr odudu every thing was restored back to me via oduduspell@gmail.com or call +447035939237 is the man that help me to bring back my lover back contact him if you are in any problem via oduduspell@gmail.com or
call+447035939237
miss laser
June 23, 2013

SONIA said:

THANKS TO DR. LUDA
My name is Sonia, and i live in uk.I have been through hell and pain,looking for a good and real spell caster who can help me get my husband back.I have been scammed so many times,by some who claimed to be real spell casters.until i found the real and great spell caster PROPHETLUDASPELLTEMPLE" who helped me,and solved all my problems concerning my boyfriend who left me since eight months ago.and after that i also took my friend along,who was also having the same problem concerning her husband,who left her since five months ago,and the problem was also solved by the same PROPHETLUDASPELLTEMPLE". Can't you see! the real and great spell caster is here,all you need to do now is to contact this same address whenever you are in any problem related to spell casting.It took me a very long period of time,before i could get this real and great spell caster.So right now "prophetludaspelltemple@outlook.com" is here,and the best for you to solve your problems.......
prophetludaspelltemple@outlook.com
July 09, 2013

sandra said:

helpful man
Am happy to share this testimony about this great man called Dr Iwajowa. I am Sandra from California , my husband had an affair with another lady for almost 10 years now and it was the worse thing that ever happened to our marriage. I was forced to take a good hard look at MY behavior in the marriage and I came to realize that I was partly to blame for his affair. I had become emotionally unavailable to him and when something good or bad happened in my life, I called my friends instead of my husband. I had stopped allowing him to love me and to support me and he felt as if I no longer needed him. As a musician on the road with his band, it became to much temptation for him when a girl he met on road became interested in him and was more than available for him emotionally and physically. Once I really started to examine my behavior, I realized that I had as much work to do as he did. When going through all theses problem i came across Dr Iwajowa then i explained things to him. after explanation to him, he told me what to do by bringing back my husband so i decided to follow the rules which he gave to me. Now, My husband cut all tires with his other woman and became committed to working on our marriage to save it. Today, we have a beautiful son, another on the way in a couple weeks, we own our home, and have a fuller, happier life than we ever imagined. After i came across the testimony made by Julie about how this man of spirit brought back her ex husband for more than ten years in marriage. so my if you are in such pain and you don't no what to do you can contact this great man for help i promise you all he will help you the way he helped me so via Email IWAJOWATELLERSPELL@YAHOO.COM or call him +2347030410643
July 09, 2013

Mary said:

Greatest voodoo
My name is Mary from Florida I have to give this miraculous testimony, which is so unbelievable until now. I had a problem with my Ex husband two years ago, which lead to our break up. when he broke up with me, I was not my self again, i felt so empty inside me, my love and financial situation became worst, until a close friend of mine Lucy told me about a spell caster who helped her in the same problem too his name is prophet sango jagaban I email prophet sango the spell caster and i told him my problem and i did what he asked of me, to cut the long story short. Before i knew what was happening my husband gave me a call and told me that he was coming back to me in just two days and was so happy to have him back to me. We have two kids together and we are happy with ourselves. Thanks to prophet sango for saving my relationship and for also saving others own too. continue your good work, If you are interested to contact him and testify this blessings like me, the great spell caster email address is :sangojagaban@gmail.com you are the best among all the spell caster.
August 21, 2013

james said:

a good spell caster


I NEVER BELIEVED IN LOVE SPELLS UNTIL I MET THIS WORLD'S TOP SPELL CASTER. HE IS REALLY POWERFUL AND COULD HELP CAST SPELLS TO BRING BACK ONE'S GONE,LOST,MISBEHAVING LOVER AND MAGIC MONEY SPELL OR SPELL FOR A GOOD JOB.I'M NOW HAPPY & A LIVING TESTIMONY COS THE WOMAN I HAD WANTED TO MARRY LEFT ME 2 WEEKS BEFORE OUR WEDDING AND MY LIFE WAS UPSIDE DOWN COS OUR RELATIONSHIP HAS BEEN ON FOR 2YEARS... I REALLY LOVED HIM, BUT HIS MOTHER WAS AGAINST US AND HE HAD NO GOOD PAYING JOB. SO WHEN I MET THIS SPELL CASTER, I TOLD HIM WHAT HAPPENED AND EXPLAINED THE SITUATION OF THINGS TO HIM..AT FIRST I WAS UNDECIDED,SKEPTICAL AND DOUBTFUL, BUT I JUST GAVE IT A TRY. AND IN 7 DAYS WHEN I RETURNED TO USA, MY GIRLFRIEND(NOW WIFE) CALLED ME BY HERSELF AND CAME TO ME APOLOGIZING THAT EVERYTHING HAD BEEN SETTLED WITH HIS MOM AND FAMILY AND SHE GOT A NEW JOB INTERVIEW SO WE SHOULD GET MARRIED..I DIDN'T BELIEVE IT COS THE SPELL CASTER ONLY ASKED FOR MY NAME AND MY GIRLFRIENDS NAME AND ALL I WANTED HIM TO DO... WELL WE ARE HAPPILY MARRIED NOW AND WE ARE EXPECTING OUR LITTLE KID,AND MY WIFE ALSO GOT THE NEW JOB AND OUR LIVES BECAME MUCH BETTER. IN CASE ANYONE NEEDS THE SPELL CASTER FOR SOME HELP, HIS EMAIL ADDRESS IS;okutemple@hotmail.com ......HOPE HE HELPS YOU OUT OUR OPPORTUNITY ... CONTACT THIS GREAT SPELL CASTER VIA EMAIL:okutemple@hotmail.com

October 06, 2013

marina said:

marinasmith334@gmail.com
My testimony.My name is marina smith, i am from Canada but i've being in USA for years. I never believe in any spell caster until my lover treated me so bad, i never knew the reason why he was doing all that until a friend of mine take me to a spell home which is sango priest the spell caster, and the Dr told me that it was another female that cast a spell on my lover, and he sald he can revises the spell back to the sender.I never believe in him until he finally did it and my lover came back to me with an apology that he never knew what he was doing. If you want him to help you bring your lover back, your husband and your ex, you can contact him with this email address (obatalasango@gmail.com)
October 11, 2013

lucy said:

my testimony
I can’t thank you enough Email: ekakaspelltemple@yahoo. com for all that you have done for me. About a year ago I my partner had a misunderstanding that lead to break up, we had both made BIG mistakes in our relationship. He ended up moving away from me to pursue a new life. I knew in my heart that he would be the only one to make me happy. I was relieved when I found your site and what you had to offer. I requested 3 to 4 day casting of the reunite us love spell and within 4days Denny company had relocated him back to our hometown where I still lived. We immediately reconnected and move in with each other i am so happy that i found you and i was all patient to following your order thank you Dr Ekaka.
October 26, 2013

WISE said:

HOW HE HELP ME




HOW I RECORVER MY MONEY TRUE THIS SPELL CASTER

Hello friends.My name is WISE. I'm from from India but am based in Chicago.Been living in chicago for years now.I never believed in all spell casting.Have been scammed by many different people.I lost hope in them.My ex left me.I was devastated.I lost my job.My best friend saw my plight.Then he introduced me to Prophet ODUBU.Was told his work is free.Never believed until i got in touch with him.He did a spell for me. i recover all my money and My ex came back in less than 72hrs.I was recalled at my place of work.Was even promoted immediately.I couldn’t believe there is a real prophet out there who does free spells.I only paid in appreciation after the spell had worked.He doesn’t charge anybody until the spell has worked.You all shouldn’t be deceived by all these scammed that are here for money.prophet pillar doesn’t charge.You can only pay for the items the spell will worked.Try him and see what am saying.These are the few things he does
*HE BRING BACK LOST LOVERS IN 24hrs.
*REMOTE CONTROL OVER LOVERS.
*ALL TYPES OF SPELL CASTING & VOODOO WORKER.
* IS YOUR HEALER TAKING LONG TO SOLVE YOUR PROBLEMS? THIS IS YOUR CHANCE TO BE HELPED QUICKLY.
*GET RIDE OF ANY WITCHCRAFT, BAD LUCK & CURSES.
* EXPERT IN DISTANCE HEALING
*COURT CASES EVEN IF ONE IS CONVICTED[IF THERE'S A CHANCE OF APPEALING]
*IS SOME BODY JEALOUS WITH YOUR RELATIONSHIP?
*UNFINISHED JOBS BY OTHER DOCTORS-IF NOT SATISFIED-COME TO ME.
*ARE YOU BEING FORCED INTO A DIVORCE?
*HE PREVENT BAD LUCK AND JEALOUSY.
*TO WIN HORSES AND GAMBLING.
*HE CAN STOP SOME ONE INTERFERING WITH YOUR RELATIONSHIP.
* DO YOU WANT TO HAVE CHILDREN OF YOUR CHOICE
*DO YOU WANT QUICK MARRIAGE PROPOSAL?
*HE CAN CLEAN PEOPLE HOUSES,BUSINESSES AND PROPERTIES FROM BAD LUCK.
*DO YOU NEED EXCESSIVE SEXUAL POWER AND STRONG ERECTIONS.
* WOMEN, COME FOR THE TAMPON. IT WILL HELP YOU NOT TO LOSE YOUR RELATIONSHIPS BECAUSE IT MAKES YOU SWEET, WARM AND TIGHT.
You can get in touch with him through THIS EMAIL ADRESS{ODUBUSPIRITUALTEMPLEDR@YAHOO.COM}OR YOU CALL ME ON THIS NUMBER +447012973504.

November 23, 2013

kaka said:

prophetic man




DR KAKARAKA<
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Contact kaka. if you need this help, and tell him your
problem, and he will
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spells. and all your problem will be solved, and you will live a happy
life forever. contact DR KAKARAKA on this email address {kakarakaspell@yahoo.com}
November 23, 2013

vanisher said:

IF NOT DR ODUDU MY FRIEND WOULD THAT BETRAYED ME CONTACT HIM ON ODUDUSPELL@GMAIL.COM OR CALL +2348051913076
THIS is how i got my lover back in just 24hour, my name is vanisher from Australia we both were have am affair that lend to engagement of ring before i knew it my best friend that i introduce my fiance to went behind me and started dating my lover with that my fiance put a stop and delay to our weeding, i never knew it was my better friend that i tell her every thing she the person putting obstacle on my marriage in a matter of time my fiance called me and said he can not continuing with the marriage and the reason is best know to him.i as him what are the reason he never bother to tell me and he stop picking my calls and replying my sms, i was depress in just one month when i was browsing on my online i saw some great testimony about Dr odudu how he bring back people lover and restored all that have lost in just 24hour, that is how i contact ODUDUSPELL@GMAIL.COM OR CALL +2348051913076 to my greatest surprise after the casting of the spell my fiance called me immediately and run down to my house and start begging me for all he has done to me and how my best friend came and seduce he and how he used charm on him he confess all to me that he very sorry that i should accept him back to my life i was so surprise that my best friend could do this to me. with the power of Dr odudu every thing came back to me in just 24hour, people in the world beware of friends if not for Dr odudu i would that lost my lover forever thank for Dr odudu for every thing contact him on ODUDUSPELL2GMAIL.COM OR CALL +2348051913076 that is how my fiance come back to me in the following weeks we get married and become husband and wife all with the help of Dr odudu contact him now if you want all your problem to be solve.
CONTACT EMAIL; ODUDUSPELL@GMAIL.COM
PHONE NUMBER; +2348051913076
December 08, 2013

nagalian said:

how i get my hope back
I am Nagalia Pendragon from melbourne australia, after six years in marriage with my husband with 3 kids, he suddenly started going out with other women and coming home late, each time i confronted him it turns out to be a fight and he always treathened to divorce me at all time, my marriage was gradually coming to an end. i tried all i could to stop him from this unruly attitude but all proved abortive, until i saw a post in the forum about a spell caster who helps people cast spell on marriage and relationship problems, at first i doubted it but decided to give it a try, when i contacted this Spell caster Dr. ofua via email, he helped me cast a spell and within 4 hours my husband came back apologizing for all he has done and promised never to do such again and today we are happily together again. Contact this Great spell caster for your marriage or relationship issues via this email; ofuaspiritualtemple@gmail. com
December 22, 2013

Tracy said:

THE GREAT Dr. NICE OKSE WHO BROUGHT MY HUSBAND BACK TO ME

I have always wanted to be able to not live paycheck to paycheck or have any debt. I worked in accounting for about 20 years and was barely able to make ends meet. It seemed like any time I moved up in the company and received a raise, my living expenses would go up significantly and I was never able to get ahead. lottery spells. Then one day my best friend told me the truth about what he did when his wife left him. He had a love spell cast and she stopped the divorce proceedings and they got back together. When he told me this I asked who he used and he gave me their email address which is:professionallovespell@hotmail.com and I immediately contacted them for help. I saw that they offered different kinds of money spells to help win the lottery. I was immediately intrigued. I have always felt like I was going to win the lottery someday. I had the jackpot lottery spell cast and awaited my win. I was told to play the lottery each week and I did what I was told. I played the lottery each week anyways, so it did not change anything. Within about two weeks it happened. I won $100,000!! I could not believe it! It was not enough money to retire right away, but I invested it well and it has allowed me to go down to part time work and will help me retire much earlier. I am eternally grateful for finding their email address:professionallovespell@hotmail.com my name is Tracy
January 04, 2014

Mary said:

Best voodoo
Hello

I am Mary used every single spell worker on the internet, spent
untold amounts of money and discovered they are all fakes…i was the
fool though; doing the same thing over and over again and expecting
different results. In the end, I decided that I wanted a tarot reading
to know what my future held for me; I contacted a woman who lives
locally to me and she told me about a man named (priests sango);
he does not advertise on the internet, has another job for income, has
no set prices, makes no false promises and refuses to help anyone that
cannot be helped and even helps for free sometimes, he will give you
proof before taking money. He is a wonderful man and he was the only
person who actually gave me real results. I really hope he doesn’t
mind me advertising his contact on the internet but I’m sure any help/
extra work will benefit him.contact him as sangojagaban@gmail.com,He
travel sometimes.love marriage,finance, job promotion ,lottery
Voodoo,poker voodoo,golf Voodoo,Law & Court case Spells,money
voodoo,weigh loss voodoo,any sicknesses voodoo,Trouble in
marriage,it’s all he does Hope this helps everyone
that is in a desperate situation as I once was; I know how it feels to
hold onto something and never have a chance to move on because of the
false promises and then to feel trapped in wanting something more.
January 08, 2014

Becky Johnson said:

testimony
Am so grateful to Dr Olokunorbo for what he has done for me,At first i was thinking he was a scam and also thinking if i was doing the right,But when i decided to contact him i told him my problem he laughed and told me that everything will be okay within 48hours,So i decided to give it a try in which i contacted him he told me that i should remove all taught from my mind and be happy,Really on the second day i just got a cal from someone.The person was weeping then i decided to ask who was i speaking to then he called his name Richard i was shocked i asked him what happened he said he is really sorry for what he has done to me for the past 3years for leaving me alone.That i should please forgive him that he will make it up with me.So then i said let him come over which he did as he was coming he got me a new car and also said i should have access to his account top prove to me that he will never leave me for anything now we are bought together and we are going to celebrate this Xmas in any country of my choice,Which we are preparing for.Now we are together and he cant do without me friends am so happy to Dr Olokunorbo for bringing back happiness to my life.i swear with my life Dr Olokunorbo his a man to trust you can contact him on his private mail olokunorbospiritualtemple@gmail.com
My name is Becky Johnson

from USA
January 27, 2014

Jerry Mike said:

Thank you Great Ovoko
It's awesome and amazing. My name is Jerry Mike from the United States. Getting my wife back was what i least expected and could ever imagine. I and my wife have been married for five years and we have been living happily but all of a sudden she changed completely and turned away from me but i never knew what was going on, and i tried to ask her but she refused to tell me what the problem is, and as time went on she sought for a divorce. I was so worried and confused. During my search for a way out, a friend of mine who had similar problem told me about a great spell caster called Great Ovoko who helped him with his situation. I never use to believe in spell casting in my entire life so i tried to give this man a chance because i never thought it will work for me but to my greatest surprise it got me a positive result and i was able to get my wife back. Even after the spell caster did his work, i discovered my wife fell so much in love with me unlike before. This spell casting isn't brain washing but he opened up her eyes to see how much i love and needed her. Now i am a happy man again and do not know what to do for him and so i am using this opportunity to tell anyone having similar problem to visit Ovokolovespell@gmail. com he will help you because he is so real and his spells is so powerful. Once again thank you Great Ovoko and may your gods reward you for your good deeds.....
January 28, 2014

ELICIA said:

spell works
My name is Mrs. Alicia Jones,From USA ,and I’m
happily married with a lovely husband and two
children.I had a very big problem with my husband
few months ago,to the extent that he even packed his
things away from our house. He left I and and my kids
for almost 5 months,and i tried all my possible best
and effort to bring him back.I discussed it with a very
good friend of mine,and he gave me an advice
concerning a spell caster, that he is the only one that
can handle my situations and problem,that he’s
always ready and able to do anything related to spell
casting and helping of the needy, Pls every every one i
would like you all to contact him with his email
address,which is as
follows.” ancesrialspelltemple@gmail.com". I
never believed in spell casting,but My friend
convinced me and i had no choice than to follow my
friend advice,because i never dreamed of loosing my
lovely Husband. And i contacted him with his email
address,and i discussed with him all my problems and
worries and so surprisingly,he told me that I’ll get my
husband back a day after. I didn't believed Him, until
when i got home,the next day,my husband called me
to inform me that he is coming back home…..So
Amazing!! That’s how i got my husband back through spell
casting and our relationship was stronger than ever.
One of the price i was asked to pay was to tell it to the
people around me that problems like this,can always
be solved by Dr.spiritus marcus. So! my advice to you out
there is to visit this same E-mail address,and tell him
your problems too,if you are in any condition related
to love issue or getting your ex back or any problem
at all, pls Contact him and have a happy life. you can
contact him via email (ancesrialspelltemple@gmail.com)or call +2348052339222


February 02, 2014

Grace Fatima said:

Spell caster
Good day,

My testimony to you all !!! on how i get my EX back, Am happy today......

My Name is Mrs. Grace Fatima, From United States of America, i wish to share my testimonies with the general public about what this man called Dr. Oriwo Ududu has just done for me, this man has just brought back my Ex husband to me with his great spell caster, I was married to this man called Joe Hanson we were together for a long time and we loved our self’s but when I was unable to give him a child for 2 years he left me and told me he can’t continue anymore, and I was confused and frustrated, then I was now looking for ways to get him back until a friend of mine told me about this man called Dr. Oriwo Ududu and gave me his contact email address: spellcaster.oriwotemple@gmail.com then you won't believe this when I contacted this man on my problems he prepared this spell cast and bring my lost husband back, and after a month I miss my month and go for a test and the result stated that I am pregnant!!! am happy today am a mother of a baby girl, thank you once again the great MAN (Dr. Oriwo Odudu) for what you have done for me.

If you are out there passing through any of this problems listed below: ..... Contact him and your problems will be solved.

1) If you want your ex back.
(2) If you always have bad dreams.
(3) You want to be promoted in your office.
(4) You want women/men to run after you.
(5) If you want a child.
(6) You want to be rich.
(7) You want to your husband or wife to be
with you forever.
(8) If you need financial assistance.
(9) How you been scammed and you want to recover you lost money.
(10)Stop Divorce

Contact him now via Email: spellcaster.oriwotemple@gmail.com
February 04, 2014

veronica said:

how to get your back urgently
Hi everyone i will never forget the help the drorrriwo Shrine render to me in my marital life. i have been married for 4 years now and my husband and i love each other very dearly . after 3 years of our marriage my husband suddenly change he was having an affair with a lady outside,i notice it then i was praying for divine intervention the thing became more serious i told my pastor about it we prayed but nothing happen. my husband just came home one day he pick up his things and left me and the kids to his mistress outside at this time i was confuse not knowing what to do again because i have lost my husband and my marriage too. i was just checking my mails in the office when i saw someone sharing her testimony on how the drorriwo help her out with her marital problems so i contacted the email of drorriwo. I told he my problem and i was told to be calm that i have come to the right place that i should fill some information concerning my self i did after some time she called me again congratulating me that my problems will be solve within 13days. he told me what went wrong with my husband and how it happen. that they will restored my marriage but i will make a free donation to their Shrine anything my heart told me. to my greatest surprise my husband came to my office begging me on his knees that i should find a place in my heart to forgive him i quickly ask him up that i have forgiven him.friends your case is not too hard why don’t you give drorriwo a trier he powewerful and kind. i know he will also bring back your husband. i promise to keep sharing he good work any time i’m on the internet. when ever i come accros a forum like this, i always share the testimony. contact he via drorriwo@gmail.com..am veronica
February 06, 2014

Marilyn said:

thanks to lalu
My Name is marilyn..I never believed in Love Spells or Magics until I
met this special spell caster when i went to Africa to Execute some
business..He is really powerful..My wife divorce me with no reason for
almost 4 years and i tried all i could to have her back cos i really
love her so much but all my effort did not work out.. we met at our
early age at the college and we both have feelings for each other and
we got married happily for 5 years with no kid and she woke up one
morning and she told me she's going on a divorce..i thought it was a
joke and when she came back from work she tender to me a divorce
letter and she packed all her loads from my house..i ran mad and i
tried all i could to have her back but all did not work out..i was
lonely for almost 4 years...So when i told the spell caster what
happened he said he will help me and he asked for her full name and
her picture..i gave him that..At first i was skeptical but i gave it a
try cos have tried so many spell casters and there is no solution...so
when he finished with the readings,he got back to me that she's with a
man and that man is the reason why she left me...The spell caster said
he will help me with a spell that will surely bring her back.but i
never believe all this...he told me i will see a positive result
within 3 days..3 days later,she called me herself and came to me
apologizing and she told me she will come back to me..I cant believe
this,it was like a dream cos i never believe this will work out after
trying many spell casters and there is no solution..The spell caster
is so powerful and after that he helped me with a pregnancy spell and
my wife got pregnant a month later..we are now happy been together
again and with lovely kid..This spell caster has really changed my
life and i will forever thankful to him..he has helped many friends
too with similar problem too and they are happy and thankful to
him..This man is indeed the most powerful spell caster have ever
experienced in life..Am Posting this to the Forum in case there is
anyone who has similar problem and still looking for a way out..you
can reach him to his personal email laluogirioko@gmail.com

BELOW ARE OTHER EASY SPELL HE DO CASTS
Evil Spells
Money Spells
Lost Love Spells
Divorce Spells
Magic Spells
Protection Spells
witchcraft spells
love spells


good luck...
February 14, 2014

Angela Chammeles said:

Dr uduga brought beck my family
THANKS TO EVERYONE out there am Angela Chammeles by name i live in Canada with my family am a full time worker i am very happy to say this testimony to my people because this great man called dr uduga have done a miracle in my life i did not believe one day this sickness will have a cure but at last i am free thank you very much dr uduga because of this situation my husband took my children and left the house i was frustrated all i could think of is death until when my friend called Fatima heard that i am sick so she came to see me on my sick bed she ask my sister why do they took me to a hospital that this sickness is not an ordinary and also ask if we have not heard the good work dr uduga has been doing for people so after Fatima my friend told me everything i was left with any option than to give a try so i ask her to give me the great man`s contact and she gave me so i called the man and tell him everything that happened after telling him the great man asked is that all your problem i said yes great one he laugh and said with me your problem are solve that there is nothing to worry about he told me what to do that within 24hours i will see the result after that day i called him, the next you can not believe what i receive i am strongly to say that i am heal now thank you very much dr uduga for what you have done in my life i pray that people will locate a good man like you sir where ever you are once again thank you sir. my friends out there if his contact is needed here is the email; udugatempleofsolution@gmail.com or his cell number +2348153592618 for you to receive your own miracle in any kind of help you need this man to do for you he is ready.

Angela Chammeles from Canada
March 06, 2014

logan said:

HIV CURE
AM LOGAN
Hello let me give this testimony to the public about a great man who help me out in serious illness I have HIV AID for good 5year and I was almost going to the end of my life due to the way my skin look like all I have in my mind is let me just give up because life is not interesting to me any longer but I just pray for God every day to accept my soul when ever I’m gone lucky to me my kids sister run to me that she found a doctor in the internet who can cure HIVAID she help me out on everything the man ask for my picture, so he can cast a spell on me from his temple after all he ask is done 45mins later I started getting more stronger my blood start flow normally for 4 to 5 days I start getting Wight before a month my body start developing my skin start coming up after 2month I went for HIV test and I was tested negative if you want to confirm just email me on cuteloganhanderson@gmail.com, I’m so happy that I can say I’m not a HIV patient if you have HIVAID or any sickness please for your save contact him for cure now on dr.aribaspelltemple@outlook.com OR call +2348163979933 he can also help you out okay.
March 07, 2014

Raj Chandrakant, Kent said:

RELATIONSHIP HEALER OF THE UNIVERSE TEMPLEOFANSWER@HOTMAIL.CO.UK+2348155425481


i' m Raj Chandrakant, Kent, from England. I have been married for 8 years, and my marriage was great, but after years our romance was going down everyday. There was no romance. I was scared that some one else could get in between.Then i contact Dr Obodo at templeofanswer@hotmail. co .uk and he helped us out. In just weeks, passion, and romance was again in our house. Our marriage is stronger than ever. Thanks a lot Dr Obodo
March 10, 2014

thompson said:

hoe will i get back my ex lover
Thompson
my wife came back home yesterday. She left me and our children some months ago. Having her call me yesterday, she came back home was the greatest gift I ever received. The last few weeks have been the worst we ever had since the separation.I did my best to keep the faith with Dr ogudu. it was hard. So many times my faith wavered and I feared that I was going to lose my wife. After listening to Dr ogudu about his faith , I went to the store to send him money to get the items from the market that is how my wife came back home yesterday, i must say thank you Dr ogudu for your miracles in my relationship, if you have a problem of relationship don't hesitate to let him work for you my dear. here is his contact email address: oguduspell@gmail.com or you can call his mobile number+2348140033412,

March 13, 2014

monica smith said:

thanks be to dr.uko
i am miss MONICA from U K, I promise to share this testimony all over the world once my boyfriend return back to me, and today with all due respect i want to thank DR.UKO for bringing joy and happiness to my relationship and my family. I want to inform you all that there is a spell caster that is real and genuine. I never believed in any of these things until i loosed my boyfriend, I required help until i found ukospelltemple@yahoo.com a grate spell caster, And he cast a love spell for me, and he assured me that I will get my boyfriend back in two days after the spell has been cast. two days later, my phone rang, and so shockingly, it was my boyfriend who has not called me for past 10 years now, and made an apology for the heart break, and told me that he is ready to be my back bone till the rest of his life with me. DR.UKO released him up to know how much i loved and wanted him. And opened his eyes to picture how much we have share together. As I'm writing this testimony right now I'm the most happiest girl on earth and me and my boyfriend is living a happy life and our love is now stronger than how it were even before our break up. So that's why I promised to share my testimony all over the universe.All thanks goes to DR.UKO for the excessive work that he has done for me. Below is the email address in situation you are undergoing a heart break, and I assure you that as she has done mine for me, she will definitely help you too. ukospelltemple@yahoo.com
March 14, 2014

zxn said:

helper


HOW I GOT MY EX BACK

I had a problem with my boyfriend six months ago,which lead to us apart.
When he broke up with me,I was no longer myself,I fill so empty inside
sorry.Until a friend of mine told me about one of her spells that helped in
same problem too. i email the spells and I told him my problem
and I did what he asked me to briefly make. the long story Before I knew it
what happened,not 48 hours,my friend gave me a call and he
come back to me and told me he was sorry about what was going to happen, I'm so
grateful to these spells and will not stop publishing his name on the internet
just for the good work he has doing.If you need his help,you can email him at
(UNIQUELOVESPELLCENTER@YAHOO.COM)and he will also help you to Dr.AZIM(
UNIQUELOVESPELLCENTER@YAHOO.COM) I will be forever grateful to you.
March 19, 2014

Scott said:

HOW I GOT MY EX BACK
Hello friends, an awesome and amazing testimony about a Great spell caster i really love to share. My name is Phil Scott from the United States. Getting my wife back is what i least expected and could never imagine. I and my wife have been married for five years and we have been living happily but all of a sudden she changed completely and turned away from me and i never knew what was going on, i tried to ask her but she refused to tell me what the problem is, and as time went on she sought for a divorce. I was so worried and confused, and i did all my possible best to get her back but it wasn't easy, i thought all hope was lost, and during my search for a way out, a friend of mine who had similar problem told me about a great spell caster called Great Eziza who helped him get back his wife also. I never believe in spell casting in my entire life or a magic because i never thought it will work but i tried to give this man a chance and to my greatest surprise, He cast a spell on me but today we are back together into a lovely home with three beautiful kids. We are happy together again and i am using this opportunity to tell anyone passing similar situation to contact him on ezizatempleofsolution@gmail. com and you will be the next to tell a new testimony.
April 14, 2014

MAGNUS said:

GET YOUR LOVER BACK AT: zabaza.logan@yahoo.com OR CALL +2348182620374 FOR HELP
On this day it give me great joy and happiness to thank Dr.Zabaza for his great help by restoring my relationship within 48 hours and my relationship has become so good and filled with love, Since the help of Dr.Zabaza my lover has always treat me with so much love and now we are planning to get married within this month and i don't want to disclose the date yet. But at this moment i just want people to know how and where to get there lover back within 48 hours. The details are: +2348182620374 or via email zabaza.logan@yahoo. com These details have saved a lot of broken relationship and marriages so you don't need to waste time in contacting Dr.Zabaza.
April 14, 2014

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