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Bill C-11 Scheduled For Third Reading at the Senate Today

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Thursday June 28, 2012
Bill C-11 is scheduled for third reading at the Senate today, paving the way for the bill's passage and royal assent tomorrow. I posted my thoughts on the public's impact on the substance of the bill earlier this month.
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JK said:

Royal Assent
Gets Royal Assent but when does it actually become into law?

Can't wait to start hiding on the Internet, time to go dark!
June 28, 2012

Crockett said:

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Perhaps the ink on paper will not have time to dry before more concessions are annotated from the TPP.
June 28, 2012

Mark said:

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Wait... what?

I thought it passed the third reading last week.

Not that it matters. The conservatives want to push this through entirely unaltered, and with their parliament majority, they can do it without needing to worry about any opposition.

When the bill becomes law, *EVERY* person in Canada that simply uses any form of content with a digital lock will be breaking the law... simply by remembering what they saw or heard, since the memories in a person's brain could be argued to be a type of analog "copy" of the work, and have thus effectively bypassed the digital lock copy protections. C-11 contains no exceptions for making analog copies of digitally locked products, and contains no exceptions even for personal use copies (which is what memories could be argued to be), so it stands to reason that simply remembering something that happens to be protected by digital lock makes you a criminal.

Not that I expect they would enforce it in such a case... it's absurd to think that they would, but is it not equally absurd that such an act should even be technically illegal in the first place?
June 28, 2012

Dullerd said:

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Where's the Supreme Court of Canada in all of this?
If this Bill has some things in it that are uncon-
stitutional, can they not step in at any time?

Bill C-11 is very one sided.Most power being given
to the big music companies, but very little
given to the artists and consumers.

Is this true?

http://www.digitaljournal.com/pr/766346

And this is just totally unfair, showing
the Cons did nothing to help musical artists.

http://www.northumberlandview.ca/index.php?module=news&type=user&func=display&sid=15812
June 28, 2012

haha said:

aaaaaaahhhhhh!
Yet another day of feeling powerless.
June 28, 2012

Anono said:

Wrong.
WRONG
the bill went by second reading and wont become law until after the fat cats return form summer vacation at end of summer....



ALSO to get around the backup issue just download a already cracked dvdr that someone else not in your nation broke the lock on and is giving you an iso to rebuild ...after all until that set a files is burned there is no protection and the rcmp state they arent going after non commercial file sharing ( how they know the difference is anyone's guess and such laws are against the charter too bad geist sold out after the conservatives and there buds sued him....)

yup we dont need no stinking lawyers and cause you listened to him and cory you get what you deserve.




no they all get a 2 month vacation during the summer
thus it wont become law till later an di hear that the second is does there are two charter lawsuits waiting....

the other idea and proof of one charter violation is that if everyone had a store bought dvdr and ripped a back up to there hard drive that violates the encryption rules then you get a 5000$ fine if you turn yourself in , and when you do that say your not willing to pay the fine.....and you don't want bail....think of the economic chaos that occurs when 6-8 million Canadians are jailed over the a few days ....no doubt in my mind every judge in the land is scared shitless of we the people doing that....

it would be akin to 8 million people turning themselves in for a gram a pot that gets you a year in prison with the new crime omnibus bill that passed....

8 million people not paying any taxes , 8 million people that have to be housed fed and looked after....cant be done....

the question is are you like me willing to take a few days of your life to really stop this law....if not shut up and suck hollywood cock
June 28, 2012

Dullerd said:

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@anono

What have most people really done to try and
stop this Bill C-11 from becoming law? I've
signed a couple of petitions, including the one
on openmedia.ca

I had posted links from this site, regarding
the impact this bill would have on everyday
citizens who use the internet. I hardly ever
got a like, or response from the people that
I know.

Yes, if more people were willing to stand up
and do like what they did in the US, shut down
websites for a day etc this bill could have
potentially been shot down. Instead, the Con-
servative MP's who received the tens of thousands
of complaints against C-11 went ignored.



June 28, 2012

Thanks said:

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You did a good job Mr. Geist. Thanks again. Can't always stop a trainwreck, but at least now we know about it.
June 29, 2012

AWJ said:

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I'm not a lawyer; maybe someone who is can tell me if I'm on the right track as to how a constitutional challenge would proceed. I'm guessing that the argument will be that given that C-11 derives its authority from the federal government's copyright power (if it doesn't then it's unconstitutional on its face), then the anti-circumvention provisions have to be subject to standard copyright principles such as fair dealing and copyright misuse, no matter how much the text of the bill explicitly claims that those principles don't apply in cases of TPM circumvention. Then what we would consider "evil" uses of TPMs, such as locking out third-party software on smartphones and game consoles, or the cartel-like policies of the DVD and Blu-Ray licensing bodies, could be challenged as copyright misuse the first time a Canadian is sued for unlocking a smartphone or for distributing a Linux Blu-Ray player.
June 29, 2012

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