The Final Copyright Consultation Roundtable Summary: Who Said What

Although the government has still not posted the transcripts from the final two copyright roundtables, all ten have now been completed.  In all, 111 groups and individuals participated.  As the chart below shows, the music and publishing industries led the way with the most representatives, followed by film/movie, creators, collectives, libraries, and academics.  Most groups appeared once, the exceptions being ACTRA and the Songwriters Association of Canada (twice each).

Number of Appearances Groups/Individuals
  • Music Industry
  • Publishers
  • Film/Movie
  • Copyright Collectives
  • Performers, Artists and Writers
  • Library
  • Academics
  • ISPs
  • Civil Society
  • Students
  • Business Groups
  • Education
  • Other
  • Musicians/Songwriters
  • Museums
  • Broadcasters
  • Lawyers
  • First Nations Groups
  • Photographers
  • Software
  • Internet companies
  • Archivists
  • Blind

The top issues raised during the roundtables mirror the issues discussed in the thousands of submissions that have been posted online.  These include fair dealing, WIPO ratification, the approach on anti-circumvention, and ISP liability.  Other notable issues included crown copyright, statutory damages, and subject specific recommendations for photographers, archivists, and museums.  A full summary of key messages is posted below.

Location Name and Organization Key Messages
Vancouver Richard Brownsey, British Columbia Film Balance
  Paul Whitney, Canadian Urban Library Council Library exemptions, expansion of fair dealing, circumvention for non-infringing purposes.
  Danielle Parr, Entertainment Software Association of Canada Anti-circumvention provisions, Canadian piracy of video games is disproportionate to the United States, TPMs used for more than preventing piracy.
  Mira Sundara Rajan, Canada Research Chair and Intellectual Property Law at UBC Balance and clarity in copyright, Canada signed the WIPO treaty and should implement it.
  Richard Rosenberg, BC Freedom of Information and Privacy Association Effects on privacy if too many responsibilities are handed to ISPs.
  Niina Mitter, British Columbia Library Association’s Copyright Committee Opposed to blanket prohibitions of circumvention devices, exemptions for the disabled, defence of a good faith belief that infringing actions were protected by fair dealing, expand fair dealing.
  Elizabeth Reigns, President, British Columbia Association of Magazine Publishers Lawsuits against individuals do not help protect creators, balance, end Crown Copyright.
  Lisa Codd, British Columbia Museums Association Copyrights terms for photographs.
  Charles Laser, Writers Guild of Canada Restrict commercial infringement and not consumer behaviour, legalize format shifting and time shifting, implement WIPO.
  Bill Henderson, Songwriters Association of Canada Legalize P2P with monthly ISP levy.
  Margot Patterson, Canadian Association of Broadcasters The government should consider the implications for the marketplace of the provisions it puts into place.
  Steven Ellis, Canadian Film and Television Production Association Clarity and balance, supportive of TPMs, increase web capacity instead of throttling, levy on ISPs.
  Geoff Glass, Vancouver Fair Copyright No parody protection in Canada for shows like The Daily Show or The Colbert Report, limit anti-circumvention to infringing activities.
  Ian Boyko, Canadian Federation of Students Expand fair dealing in line with the case of CHH v. The Law Society of Upper Canada.
Calgary Lee Webster, Canadian Chamber of Commerce Copyright rewards creative efforts, Canada lags in IP reform, supportive of WIPO and Bill C-61.
  Catherine A. Campbell, Canadian Publishers' Council Agreed with the principals of Bill C-61, implement WIPO, support licensing options.
  Peter Pilarski, Alberta Director Retail Council of Canada Technologically neutral changes to copyright, clarify fair dealing.
  Kay Shea, Vice President External of the University of Calgary Students Union Digitization of learning, legitimate uses for circumvention devices.
  Rob Tiessen, Canadian Library Association Expand fair dealing, create a good faith defence to statutory damages, circumvention for non-infringing purposes, end Crown Copyright, notice-and-notice system over notice-and-takedown.
  Cynthia Rathwell, Vice President of Regulatory Affairs Shaw Communications Opposed to a graduated response which could lead to ISPs denying Internet access to households, notice-and-notice over notice-and-takedown.
  Gary Maavara Corus Entertainment and Canadian Association of Broadcasters Exemptions for radio stations
  René Smid, Executive Director for Digital Alberta Free media is not a sustainable business model, expand fair dealing.
Gatineau Serge Sasseville, Quebecor Supported C-61, welcomed making file-sharing illegal, urged the implementation of WIPO, digital copyright reform, support notice-and-notice for ISPs
  John Lawford, Public Interest Advocacy Centre Danger of anti-circumvention without link to copyright infringement, legalize time and format shifting, favour notice-and-notice, concerned about Lawful Access creeping into copyright.
  Jeremy deBeer, University of Ottawa Canadian copyright law among the best in the world, DRM is an outdated business model, fair dealing reform, technologically-neutral approach.
  Steve Wills, Manager of Legal Affairs Association of Universities and Colleges of Canada Balance, Internet exception for education, exempt ISPs from copyright liability.
  Rick Theis, Canadian Alliance of Student Associations Fair use for education, digital transfers within libraries, digital locks could limit fair dealing and access for the disabled.
  Michael Geist, University of Ottawa Technologically neutral approach, greater clarity and simplification of the Act, flexible Act, guard against DRM.
  Violet Ford, Inuit Circumpolar Institute Concerns about Inuit intellectual property and traditional knowledge.
  Paul Jones, Canadian Association of University Teachers Expand fair dealing, anti-circumvention with link to copyright infringement, allow for the defence of a good-faith belief that the infringement was covered by fair dealing.
  Mathew Johnson, Media Awareness Network Educational exceptions, anti-circumvention and fair dealing not inhibit media education.
  Brian Boyle, Canadian Photographers Coalition Photography provision
  Diana Nemiroff, Canadian Museums Association Exhibition right, costs to museums.
  Rosalie Fox, Canadian Association of Law Librarians Expand fair dealing, preservation and access to digital material.
  Laura Murray, Queen's University Balance, clarity, fair dealing, anti-circumvention with link to copyright infringement.
  David Keeble, Consultant Benefits in the value chain, monetize P2P, copyright tariffs based on consumption, not copying.
  Roanie Levy, Access Copyright Fair dealing reforms inappropriate where collective licences available.
  Nancy Morrelli, Association of Canadian Archivists Digital environment allows for expanded archives, equal access, technological neutrality, restrictions on archiving.
  Jay Kerr-Wilson, Business Coalition for Balanced Copyright Fair use exception, free market and regulatory measures as last resort, anti-circumvention with link to copyright infringement, networks should not play enforcement role.
  Graham Henderson, CRIA WIPO drives innovation, unrestrained file sharing hurts Canadian artists, balance, clear and predictable rules, foster innovation, framework consistent with international standards.
  Jessica Litwin, Canadian Conference of the Arts No position taken
  Fran Cutler, CNIB Specific reforms to perceptual disabilities provision, right to circumvent TPM
Winnipeg Carolyn Wood, Association of Canadian Publishers Print books still sustainable business model, no change to fair dealing, avoid format specific law.
  Sid Rashid, University of Manitoba Students' Association Fair dealing, format shifting.
  Merit Jensen-Carr, Documentary Organization of Canada Documentary makers cannot afford copyrighted material, expand fair dealing, U.S. fair dealing more flexible.
  Karen Adams, Canadian Association of Research Libraries (CARL) Balance, clarify fair dealing, circumvention for non-infringing purposes, concerned about high statutory damages.
  Nichole Cyr Hiebert, MTS Allstream Opposed to ISP liability or taking on a policing role, notice and notice, personal use rights, link circumvention to copyright infringement, technological neutrality.
  Cecilia Araneda, Winnipeg Film Group Artists need fair dealing, opposed to a statutory damage system, clarity and consistency.
  Christopher Dutchyn, University of Saskatchewan No to copyright term extension, opposed to digital locks, access to digital materials, fair dealing.
  Sean McManus, Manitoba Music Less aligned with CRIA, not interested in anti-circumvention legislation or suing their fans, looking for new ways to monetize.
  Alan Willaert, American Federation of Musicians Endorsed C-61, WIPO, current fair dealing protections are adequate, notice and takedown, expand private copying.
Halifax Paul Sharpe, American Federation of Musicians Performers deserve to be compensated, implement WIPO, expand private copying levy.
  Wendy Noss, Canadian Motion Picture Distributors Association Implement WIPO, ISPs should play a greater role, consumers have more legitimate options in countries with reformed copyright laws.
  Annie Morin, Canadian Private Copying Collective Expand private copying levy to deal with new technologies
  Ian McKay, NRCC Implement WIPO, commercial radio unfairly subsidized at the cost of artists.
  Paul Taylor, International Alliance of Theatrical Stage Employees Implement WIPO, protect TPMs, ISPs must play a role in halting copyright infringement, notice-and-notice is inadequate, favour notice-and-takedown.
  Dan Soucoup, Nimbus Publishing New business model, fair regime.
  Brad Keenan, Alliance of Canadian Cinema, television and Radio Artists (ACTRA) Implement WIPO, update private copying regime to new technologies, mechanism for creators to pursue online infringement, look to European model and not U.S. model.
  Barry Sookman, McCarthy Tetrault Implement WIPO, anti-circumvention legislation, graduated response, no broad fair dealing.
  Marc Belliveau, Stewart McKelvey Opposed to using language like “thief” and “pirate” that lowers the debate.
  Jonathan Stevens, Music Nova Scotia Levies on ISPs for legal content, distribution of royalties.
  Marian Hebb, Lawyer Parody exception, collective model for other exceptions with ISP levy.
  Don Quarles, Songwriters Association of Canada (SAC) Legalize P2P with monthly ISP levy.
  Michael Hilliard, Microsoft Canada Implement WIPO, generally supportive of Bill C-61, protection of TPMs, statutory damages.
Edmonton Linda Cameron, University of Alberta Press Opposed to expanding fair dealing, no  broad education exemption, copyright collectives, protect TPMs
  Shane Kennedy, Lone Pine Productions Protect TPMs, no vague fair dealing
  Ernie Ingles, Vice Provost, University of Alberta Fair dealing, circumvention for non-infringing purposes, abolish Crown Copyright, flexibility
  Myrna Kostash, Writer No change to fair dealing, no new exceptions, strengthen collective licensing
  Jane Bisbee, Alberta Motion Picture Industries Association Fairness for both sides
  Chris Henderson, University of Alberta Students Union Access to copyrighted materials for education and research
  Alexandra Hatcher, Alberta Museums Association Research and study exemptions for museums
  Rick Leech, Library Association of Alberta Balance, fair dealing, research and education exemptions, circumvention for non-infringing purposes, end Crown Copyright, access for the disabled, notice and notice
Quebec City Jean Grégoire, University Students Association of Quebec Expand fair use, education exemptions
  Hélène Messier, Société québécoise de gestion collective des droits de reproduction (COPIBEC) Balance, collective management, licenses, artists need to be paid.
  Raymond Legault, Union des artistes Expand private copying levy, moral rights, P2P
  Alain Lauzon, Society for reproduction rights of authors, composers and publishers in Canada (SODRAC) Expand personal use, no expansion to fair use, no new exceptions, limit P2P
  Christian Bédard, Regroupement des artistes en arts visuels (RAAV) Resale rights, exhibition royalties, protection for photographs
  Aline Côté, Association nationale des éditeurs de livres (ANEL) Control over digital content/eBooks
  Alexia Roussos, Association des producteurs de films et de télévision du Québec (APFTQ) Notice-and-notice, technological neutrality, royalties
  Diane Lamarre, Professional Music Publishers Association (PMPA) Expand private copying levy, technological neutrality
  Lyette Bouchard, Association québécoise de l'industrie du disque, du spectacle et de la vidéo (ADISQ) Balance, technological neutrality, limit illegal file-sharing, opposed to radio exemptions
  Jean Chabot, Association pour l'avancement des sciences et des techniques de la documentation Fair use, library exceptions, clarity, flexibility
  Martin Hudon, Conférence des recteurs et des principaux des universités du Québec (CREPUQ) Exceptions for digital content, clarity
Toronto Suzanne Morin, Bell Canada High cost of notice-and-notice, opposed to three-strikes, failure to sue sends message, monetize P2P, need to educate Canadians about copyright
  Jay Thomson, Canadian Association of Internet Providers (CAIP) Educate Canadians about copyright, notice-and-notice, opposed to notice-and-takedown and three-strikes
  Sam Boutziouvis, Canadian Council of Chief Executives (CCCE) Bill C-61 balanced rights of users and creators, technological neutrality, Canada falling behind in IP
  Gerry McIntyre, Canadian Educational Resources Council (CERC) Balance, Bill C-61 did not do enough for rights-holders, collective licenses for works used in schools, opposed to an extension of fair dealing, no new exceptions, implement WIPO
  Duncan McKie, Canadian Independent Record Production Association (CIRPA) Music associations unwilling to move to Canada, implement WIPO, expand private copying levy
  Catherine Saxberg, Canadian Music Publishers Association (CMPA) Protect rights of creators, ratify WIPO, clarity, technological neutrality, expand private copying levy, ISPs are the main beneficiaries of file-sharing and should do more to stop it, license online content
  Bernard A. Courtois, Information Technology Association of Canada (ITAC) Balance, new Internet business models should not be regulated by the government, personal use rights, notice-and-notice, research exemptions
  Jacob Glick, Google Expanded fair dealing, safe harbours for ISPs and search engines, circumvention for non-infringing purposes, monetize P2P, copyright is not a zero-sum game
  Ken Thompson, Rogers Communications ISP neutrality, notice-and-notice, opposed to notice-and-takedown, time-shifting, no digital taxes on online music
  John McKeown, Institut de la propriété intellectuelle du Canada (IPIC) Implement WIPO, effective enforcement mechanisms, restrict online piracy
  David Basskin, Canadian Private Copying Collective (CPCC) Expand private copying levy
  Samuel Trosow, University of Western Ontario Extend fair dealing, clarity, technological neutrality, licensing schemes, limit high damages
  Stephen Waddell, Alliance of Canadian Cinema Television and Radio Artists (ACTRA) Implement WIPO, expand private copying regime, stronger penalties for commercial infringement, collective licensing, more protection for artists
  Giuseppina D’Agostino, York University Reform should be based on evidence and not the loudest voices, clarity and simplicity, protect creators over rights holders
  David Fewer, Canadian Internet Policy and Public Interest Clinic (CIPPIC) Opposed to DMCA approach, circumvention for non-infringing purposes, parody protection, consumer backups, limit statutory damages, public domain, digitization initiatives, Crown Copyright, monetize file-sharing
Peterborough Craig McTaggart, Telus Personal use rights, expand fair dealing, opposed to graduated response, opposed to extending the private copying levy
  Chris Tabor, Campus Stores Canada (CSC) Importation monopolies of books, fair dealing, eliminate Crown Copyright
  Graham Stairs, Music Managers Forum Canada (MMF Canada) Support WIPO, personal use rights, ISPs profit from online file-sharing, private copying regime, licensing schemes 
  Kristian Clark, Canadian Artists’ Representation/Le Front des artistes canadiens (CARFAC) Generally supportive of Bill C-61, Re-sale rights
  Jason Bird, Kawartha Pine Ridge District School Board Fair use, DRM, exceptions for educational purposes, opposed to digital licensing of the Internet
  Victoria Owen, Ontario Library Association Fair dealing, circumvention for non-infringing purposes, protection from statutory damages when the user reasonably believed they were protected by fair dealing or other exceptions, protections for the disabled
  Robert Labossière, Canadian Art Museum Directors’ Organization (CAMDO) Complexity of Copyright Act, exceptions, exhibition right, need for more research, digital collections
  Howard Knopf, Macera & Jarzyna/Moffat & Co. Simplify fair dealing, exception for parody, eliminate private copying levy, restrict high statutory damages, no three-strikes, circumvention for non-infringing purposes, technological neutrality
  Chris Pang, Canwest Clarity and predictability, tariffs, fairness
  Stuart Wuttke, Assembly of First Nations Protection for First Nations
  Andre Cornellier, Canadian Association of Photographers and illustrators in communication (CAPIC) Supportive of photography provisions in Bill C-61, current law favours the person who commissioned the photo rather than the photographer, stock photography
  Elliot Noss, Tucows Inc. ISP neutrality
  Susan Wheeler, Rogers Media Inc. Exemptions for radio stations, format shifting, simplify tariffs

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