Duncan McKie of the Canadian Independent Record Production Association comments on the forthcoming copyright consultation. There is a great opportunity with this consultation but also a great threat as groups like CIRPA will be demanding reforms that extend beyond even C-61.
“C-61 Didn’t Go Far Enough”
July 18, 2009
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These people are such unbearable fascists. It is funny how these people are trusted more than all of our consumer protection groups, our rights group.
It angers me so much that the govt doesn’t care about the people who vote them into power.
I don’t think we should use the word “reforms” to describe the proposals that we have seen so far. The word that they are improvements to correct existing problems. In truth they are radical transformations of the law that cause it to do the opposite of what it is supposed to. “Perversions” is more accurate, though I don’t think we can say that in public (yet).
Decent newspaper article by the way. The only problem is that right up front it frames this as “the federal government’s most recent attempt to bring Canada’s intellectual property laws into the digital age.” That frame of positive modernization (“reform”) is dangerous to us – we need to either replace it or find a way to use it to our advantage.
Ouch
If the Canadian Music Creators Coalition doesn’t get invited then I don’t see these consultations as any more than a show so the Con’s can claim to have consulted Canadians.
CMCC Should Get Invited!
They are the talent, after all…
Duncan McKie and CIRPA are effectively puppets of CRIA. CIRPA once had a purpose. It doesn’t anymore. This is just more policy laundering.
“Duncan McKie, president of the Canadian Independent Record Production Association, said Bill C-61 didn’t go far enough and more protection is needed to ensure music doesn’t become worthless.”
Ahem, music has become worthless. Deal with it by changing your business model.
But nah, let’s get more government regulations and intervention. I’m sure that CIRPA will use the “protecting Canadian culture” card as well.
Sad.
I am a Canadian Indie Record Producer, and I don’t belong to this group, nor do I agree with their assessment of our copyright laws. The vast majority of Indie Record Producers in Canada do not belong to this group, and they do not speak on our behalf.
It’s also important to point out that some of the members at the CIRPA are also tied in with members of the CRIA and RIAA as subsidiaries, or through distribution. The CIRPA does not represent the Indie movement in Canada. I would look more closely at the CMCC as a more “represented” view of Indie artists in Canada.
“If we don’t have legislation protecting, sufficiently, intellectual property, businesses won’t be interested in investing in Canada, said Sasseville.”
Will obtaining this “investment” require perhaps a pentagon drawn in blood and a human sacrifice?
the CMCC didn’t get an invite. I didn’t get an invite. Nobody on this page besides Michael got an invite.
Why is this not a major news story? Im pretty sure when consulting a democracy, one should ensure every voice is equal. Seems to me like a dog and pony show.