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Creators’ Copyright Coalition View of C-32 Stakeholders

“Creators vs. “educators, computer whizzes, and pirates.”


  1. Good god
    More and more fear mongering.

    Go back to school Bill, you’re clearly lacking the education to read and understand. (Ironic, considering you’re a damn writer.)

  2. Great another one…
    Ok… Creators vs “educators, computer whizzes, and pirates”… First of all computer whizzes are also creators since they make the content managemement system that is used that the autor of that “torchon” of a blog. Second, the entire blog post was filled with lies and fear mongering… He’s about as worse as those apparently brainless artists from Quebec that drink what SODEQ said about bill C-32.

    ps: Plamondont might be a good song writer, but he looks completly idiotic when he says that bill C-32 would give student the right to freely copy stuff…

  3. I’ve decided to not even call them “creators” anymore. What are they, gods?

    The term “authors” seems much more appropriate.

  4. A REAL creator’s view …
    It is getting fairly easy to tell when a creator or ‘humble writer’ is repeating lines straight from the industry’s script. Scanning through the comments on the article I found this gem from a creator with independent thought …

    “As a member of SOCAN, ACTRA and CARAS I have to disagree with the premise that copying is a great evil. You make an initial false equivalence here, “Musicians were the first creators to feel the impact of this technological change, and we all know what happened to them. Because of pirating the incomes of record companies plummeted…” By conflating the artist with the industry you miss the point and the potential benefit. A quick look at iTunes will asssure one that people still spend a rather substantial amount on music. The difference today is that a handful of robber baron industrialists, the real pirates, no longer control all avenues of production and distribution. The music dollar is now spread over a far larger number of musicians and fosters the ability of niche artists and sub-genres to flourish.

    The CPCC, SOCAN and ACTRA do a poor job of representing my interests because they aren’t there to represent or benefit me or other actual creators. They are a subset of the industrial media complex and irrevocably tied to an out of date and failing business model. The model is not failing due to “piracy” which is the utterly false notion that a download is the same as a sale not made. The model is failing due to internal corruption, greed and arrogance within the industry. Evolution indicates that the failure to adapt is the path toward extinction. Frothing and flailing to maintain a dying model in the face of massive change will lead the media industries to a well deserved fate, the buggy wheel makers of the automobile age can attest to that.”

    Couldn’t have said it better myself 😉

  5. This article is more a narrow minded spin than anything…desperation. I made a couple scathing comments over there, but they have yet to pass moderation.

  6. All of these creators’ “from the heart” op-eds have a certain “je ne sais quoi” in common. It looks like writers are using coordinated ghost writers – but one would think that they could at least get better ones…

  7. I know these reforms look bad, but you have to look at them through these rose coloured industry goggles.

  8. Oh dear… pirating websites?
    I am not sure the author of this piece understands the difference between websites hosting copywrite protected material, and file sharing software. The difference is about 99% – as in 99% of the stuff being pirated on the internet is in filesharing rather than “websites” as the writer mentioned.

  9. Is the MPAA starting to ‘Think outside the box’?
    Here is an interesting article on a MPAA CES announcement …

    For the MPAA this is a huge stretch and a tiny little step in the right direction. But, the fundamentals are still the same, it will not stop piracy and will still put a unnecessary layer of inconvenience for the purchaser. I do agree with what has been said by others … if this type of system had been implemented much sooner then less people may not have gotten used to downloading via torrents, but it may be too late now to put the cat back in the bag.

    If this goes off seamlessly then I can see it getting some traction but otherwise they will just have to skip right to the inevitable DRM free model that music has taken.

  10. RE: Is the MPAA starting to ‘Think outside the box’?
    Surprise, surprise…the Steam model…or just abouts anyway. Now to make it sucessful, they’d better get their their pricing in line because people won’t be lining up to pay full retail for such a service. Personally, I think the DRM free model is likely inevitable. People will find a way to crack it and it will become useless, just like every other DRM scheme the **AA’s have ever tried.

  11. Sounds like netflix with more restrictions.

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  13. RE: Is the MPAA starting to ‘Think outside the box’?
    “UltraViolet will support six accounts per family, each of which can access the full set of family-owned video content, and it will support 12 unique devices per family.”

    Hmmm.. 12 devices per family. Might not be too bad if you are allowed to unregister an old device when you buy a new one. But if that “limit” is purely a historical count of devices, then it isn’t very forward looking. It would still walk like a DVD model, but with an allowance of max 12 “copies” rather than 12 “in use copies”.

    A lot of these devices won’t be always on connected devices. If it allows a one time media registration and then the media/device will work standalone, that would still be ok. But if it requires an always on connection then it won’t be accepted by the marketplace.

    And I wonder how much it will cost to create a device that is able to use that Ultraviolet technology? If there is any charge at all, there will still end up being “have” and “have not” devices/systems. BSD licensed code would be the only way it could work.

    It’s an interesting direction with potential. The devil is in the details. Those details could spell the difference between acceptance by the marketplace, and simply bypassing it in favour of existing (DRM removal or downloading) processes.

    This is one of those ideas that must be “completely right” in the details to get the needed results. If they get it “half right”, the results will be so poor that it will be considered a failure. Even if they get it 90% there, it will still not get close to expected results. There is no effective “half way results”. They need to be very careful in the details of implementation.

  14. UV
    Long term rental.


  15. Dwight Williams says:

    “Perpetual Life Under Hollywood Surveillance” scheme, I call it. No thank you.

  16. RIAA…Get Up WIth the TImes or Get Out of Town
    If you don’t study history, you are doomed to repeat it. Many years ago when radio first came out, the recording industry did not want their songs played because people were able to listen to the song for “free”. Later they changed their position when they realized this was essentially advertising for the songs that were then purchased from a record store.

    Fast forward several decades…no one listens to the radio anymore. P2P is the new radio. If your songs are not available out there no one will pay several hundred dollars to see their favorite artist in concert.

    RIAA don’t make yourself look like an idiot again and make the same mistake you made before…

  17. My Pledge
    – I will never give up the right to have all my media stored on hard drives. No scratches, no lost discs, tiny, compact and organized, no media format issues. Easy to back up.
    – I will never own any media where I need to be connected to the internet to authenticate it to use it.
    – I will never own any media that I cannot freely move from device to device at will.